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re: The video is clear: Ahmaud Arbery was killed in cold blood.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:05 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:05 am to ShortyRob
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The main thing I'd say about charges is to make sure not to over charge and then end up with a friggin acquittal.
It's just going to very hard to prove murder to a legal standard.
But. They almost certainly can be shown to have engaged in actions that led to the young man's death.
yeah i said this on the OT earlier, but regarding their arrest
they can EASILY be arrested for some serious crimes simply for shooting the gun at another person
the fact that these fricking yokels and their corrupt prosecutors are treating them differently is insane. you or me do this and we're in jail without bond
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:13 am to Seldom Seen
You shoot a guy.
1. Tell the DA the truth.
2. Make up a story.
1. Tell the DA the truth.
2. Make up a story.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:14 am to Seldom Seen
The thing the video doesn't tell me is if the physical contact came before or after the first shot.
I suspect before which would end up helping the defense avoid a murder charge
I suspect before which would end up helping the defense avoid a murder charge
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:25 am to Seldom Seen
so your argument is that any inbred guy with a sub-70 IQ has the legal authority to pull a gun on me and force me to comply?
you REALLY want to make that your argument?
you REALLY want to make that your argument?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:35 am to Seldom Seen
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They tell you to stop running, the police are on the way.
Did this really happen in this way? The demeanor of the guys chasing after the jogger sure seemed very aggressive and threatening.
This brings us to the ‘reasonable man’ argument. Were the actions of the guys with trucks and guns such that a reasonable man would assume there was no imminent threat?
Would the jogger be justified to attack a man who confronted him in such a manner?
Would the shooters be justified in shooting the jogger who made a reasonable assumption that they were threatening him with immediate bodily harm?
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:36 am to Jimbeaux
if Ahmaud Arbery had a gun and killed those 2 pieces of shite on the truck, he would be 100% justified
it doesn't work the other way
it doesn't work the other way
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:42 am to ShortyRob
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I suspect before which would end up helping the defense avoid a murder charge
Two armed men in a truck blocking the street in front of him. Yeah, pretty sure whether or not he may have touched them first won't make a bit of difference.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:44 am to Jimbeaux
This case has significant parallels to the George Zimmerman/Trevon Martin case, except we have video of the actual deadly encounter.
In Zimmerman, there is no video to show the totality of the circumstances. Zimmerman “creeping around” and following Martin is reasonably alarming, but without more evidence, Martin’s response by purportedly attacking Zimmerman physically (there is no way to dispute the testimony of such by Zimmerman), leads us to the conclusion that it was not a reasonable thing for Martin to do.
Therefore, Zimmerman’s actions in following Martin did not make him culpable of murder for later defending himself with a gun when he was under attack.
In Zimmerman, there is no video to show the totality of the circumstances. Zimmerman “creeping around” and following Martin is reasonably alarming, but without more evidence, Martin’s response by purportedly attacking Zimmerman physically (there is no way to dispute the testimony of such by Zimmerman), leads us to the conclusion that it was not a reasonable thing for Martin to do.
Therefore, Zimmerman’s actions in following Martin did not make him culpable of murder for later defending himself with a gun when he was under attack.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:47 am to Mo Jeaux
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Sure they could.
Do explain
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
if Ahmaud Arbery had a gun and killed those 2 pieces of shite on the truck, he would be 100% justified
it doesn't work the other way
I agree with you.
Notwithstanding that, there are actual tragic circumstances when two opposing parties can be justified by the reasonable man principle to act in self defense, resulting in one of them being shot and killed.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:07 am to the808bass
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Partially serious question. Do you accost people who are wearing attire mismatched with their current activities?
Personally I can’t answer anything else until I get a better idea of what he was running from. It all starts there. There’s even a rumor that he was caught on surveillance video inside a house.
Since the media says he was jogging, I’m willing to bet that there’s more to the story.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:08 am to bayoucracka
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I can’t answer anything else until I get a better idea of what he was running from. It all starts there.
Except it doesn't. There was zero reason whatsoever that the two armed rednecks should have confronted Ahmaud. None. there was no imminent threat justifying their behavior.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:13 am to Damone
You forgot to add “imo”
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:14 am to bayoucracka
Imo, you have issues.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:16 am to bayoucracka
It's not an opinion. They sat there as he ran toward them. That alone is sufficient to confirm their actions were not justified.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:20 am to Damone
That video made my stomach turn man. There is absolutely no justification for what transpired.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:31 am to Mo Jeaux
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He was out for a jog and was lynched.
Yep, the word "lynched" has been purposefully misused by the Left and Media for far too long.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:38 am to Damone
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Two armed men in a truck blocking the street in front of him. Yeah, pretty sure whether or not he may have touched them first won't make a bit of difference.
I didn't say it was a winner
But obviously, if the story is, "shot dude from 10 feet away then he charged me and shot him again", that's MUCH worse than, "pulled gun, told him to stop until cops come and he attacked me so I shot him".
In both cases, they have no business doing what they did, but, if I were in their shoes, I'd rather have the latter be true than the former.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:56 am to oogabooga68
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