re: The vaccines are not effective

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Saying it’s not effective is complete bullshite, and anyone who can think critically knows it. Just look at the number of unvaccinated people in ICUs with Covid versus vaccinated people. You’re spreading misinformation.

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You're arguing with people asking for data by suggesting they don't know how to think critically. I don't think anybody is unwilling to believe credible information, but that's pretty scarce where Covid is concerned. The notion that 90% of the people in ICUs "for Covid" are unvaccinated - where's this information coming from? And if it's true, how do we square it with the fact that about 90% of "Covid deaths" are from the 65+ population, which are a demographic that's about 80% fully vaccinated?

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Serious question. Does the vaccine help prevent you from winding up in the hospital if you do get the virus?

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. Current data says it does. However, places with earlier vaccine rollouts seem to show that the positive effects diminish over time necessitating boosters. I

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The vaccines are not effective
It’s the honest truth.

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Nah. In WA State, 95% of hospitalizations are non-vax (and ICU admits are at a pandemic high.)

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Covid-19 patients face a much higher risk of developing blood clots than those vaccinated with AstraZeneca Plc or Pfizer Inc.’s shots, according to a large U.K. study. For every 10 million people who receive the first dose of AstraZeneca, about 66 more will suffer from a blood-clotting syndrome than during normal circumstances, according to the study published in the British Medical Journal. This figure compares with 12,614 more incidences recorded in 10 million people who have tested positive for Covid-19. The study followed 29 million people who received their first doses of either AstraZeneca or Pfizer vaccine between December, 2020 and April and also tracked about 1.7 million Covid-19 patients.

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Does the vaccine help prevent you from winding up in the hospital if you do get the virus?

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We will find out in November.

I wonder if the disaster in Afghanistan will have more people blowing off the stupid Covid nonsense

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So having 50% of the population vaccinated doesn’t reduce Covid hospitalizations?

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Delta is much more infectious, so one would expect more hospitalizations even if acuity were equal. When 50% don't vax, yes, they go to the hospital. Unvaxxed is literally 5% of them. If everyone were vaxxed, we wouldn't even be noticing any of this. Just not sure why you are so committed to being on the wrong side of this.

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Nah. In WA State, 95% of hospitalizations are non-vax (and ICU admits are at a pandemic high.)

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Washington's Covid Dashboard today:

- 84% of ICU beds in the state are occupied, but only 32% of those by Covid ... IOW Covid is taking up less than 28% of the state's ICU beds

- 15% of the state's hospital beds are occupied by Covid patients

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My wife is a nurse (no pics). She does antibody infusions. She is not vaccinated. She will tell you that the vaccinated patients are not as sick. But that changes the entire argument. The argument for mandates is because it helps your neighbor which in reality, it only helps the person getting it.

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I too am an RN and work on a covid/quarantine unit. She is 100% correct. But the unvaccinated with no co-morbidities also are not getting very sick. If you are overweight or have other health issues seriously consider getting vaxxed. Side note, the vaccinated are spreading the crap out of that virus. The vaccine is only to protect yourself.