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re: The US not ready to escort tankers through the straight - Energy Secretary Wright

Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:24 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:24 am to
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My guess is it was actually the initial strike by Israel actually killed too many people. Trump likely wanted to do something similar to In Venezuela but didn’t have anyone to turn to really at the point.


The recent comments that Israel has different objectives than the US were not promising
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:25 am to
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feels like something we should have figured out ahead of time


They're literally just bombing empty industrial sites at this point in Iran. Why would you think they have an actual plan past "We blow you up. We end in 2 days."
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:25 am to
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Israel has different objectives than the US


Always has …
Posted by BOHICAMAN
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:26 am to
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The recent comments that Israel has different objectives than the US were not promising


Israel can’t fight Iran without us so they need to get in line.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:26 am to
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This feels like something we should have figured out ahead of time…


Ummm it is an asset allocation issue. We can’t just shite destroyers and frigates needed for escort duty when right now we have to first defend the fleet, find, fix and destroy all threats to the fleet!
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:28 am to
Yeah, when Pete said this, it made me wonder who decides what to do and when?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:28 am to
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Definitely a gap in planning..


Jesus, stick with small town divorce and DUI strategy because you have no grasp of military asset allocation issues…..unless like I said earlier you can double our destroyers and frigates overnight!
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:28 am to
In the age of instant gratification, people don’t understand this.
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:28 am to
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Israel can’t fight Iran without us so they need to get in line.


Trump intimidated by “people” richer than him… so the war will continue until those “people” want it to stop
Posted by BOHICAMAN
Member since Feb 2026
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:29 am to
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Trump intimidated by “people” richer than him… so the war will continue until those “people” want it to stop


If that’s what it takes to end the Iranian regime I don’t really give a shite what motivates Trump to do it.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:30 am to
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If that’s what it takes to end the Iranian regime


American lives is what it takes???… you good with that???
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:32 am to
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unless like I said earlier you can double our destroyers and frigates overnight!


Well I know of someone who claimed to have rebuilt the military that supervised the gutting of our navy which led to us not having frigates at all by now.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:32 am to
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I’m not the one who is telling the media that we are basically out of targets while my energy secretary is saying we can’t escort tankers because we’re focused on offensive strategies for the next couple weeks.


Two things can be true at the same time. They may be out of pre-planned targets but need surveillance along the coast to hit “targets of opportunity” (ie. Quasi portable anti ship missiles/drones). Until the fleet deems that we have neutralized that threat we can not risk pulling destroyers/frigates from their current fleet protection mission and do escort duty,
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:32 am to
I dont think Israel acted with malice or anything I think thats just the way it played out.

At that point we were more or less all in to a degree and our objectives and goals for acceptable victory began to diverge though. Again this is just what I think most likely happened. Could just as easily be Trump did have some people he made overtures to and was declined. Or many other things,
Posted by BOHICAMAN
Member since Feb 2026
1159 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:37 am to
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American lives is what it takes???… you good with that???


Yes
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:46 am to
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So it is in fact a war?


If its just a conflict does that mean everyone should follow a schedule?
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6575 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:50 am to
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Damn shame Biden never refilled it after he did it though.

Trump started a war that caused fuel prices to rise and you're bringing up Biden. This some sad shite right here.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:52 am to
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Dude stop it… it’s to the point now that every blunder is excused as part of the “plan”… Hegseth unqualified to be running a war … no coherent plan damn strategy changes every time Trump gets in front a microphone…


Stop what? I'm not saying everything is going according to a plan. But it's all a hell of a lot better than what Kamala was going to do for America. So I'm getting what I voted for. And I love it.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
835 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:54 am to
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Trump started a war that caused fuel prices to rise and you're bringing up Biden. This some sad shite right here.


Oh no! Fuel prices went up?! OMG!

LMAO, worth it to see Terrorist Iran get pummeled into oblivion.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30011 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:55 am to
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