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re: The US govt has lost the right to forcibly tax us.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:23 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:23 pm to FooManChoo
I agree with some of your post, but very much disagree with the rest. And I believe if our forefathers had would have had the same level of scriptural discernment as you on the issue we are discussing, that the USA would have never existed. We would have never declared independence from England, and the whole world would be a much darker and tyrannical place. I personally believe it was God’s will for the USA to be created and for things to go down like they did.
But, I’m happy to have the discussion with a fellow Christian with a different POV and theology on this. Happy New Year and God bless.
But, I’m happy to have the discussion with a fellow Christian with a different POV and theology on this. Happy New Year and God bless.
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:29 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
Please remember next election cycle that neither the Republicans nor Democrats are interested in tearing the system down. They both want to fix it. It can’t be fixed.
The Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party would tear it down.
The Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party would tear it down.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:42 pm to Timeoday
quote:They probably do so by pointing to the legitimate uses of those tax dollars. The abuse does not nullify the rightful use.
How does government justify confiscation of your money for fraudulent use thereof?
Our government should make better use of the money it receives through taxes, but fraud and waste do not erase the government’s lawful existence and administration.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:42 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
16th Amendment repealed?
Mandatory withholding repealed?
If not, this is meaningless.
Mandatory withholding repealed?
If not, this is meaningless.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:44 pm to BamaScoop
quote:She certainly did, as the USA could certainly do. My trust is not in the government or politicians, but as a Christian, I need to obey God, who commands me to pay taxes, even to a corrupt and imperfect government.
Rome fell
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:45 pm to Timeoday
quote:No, I am not.
Are you British?
quote:Most certainly not.
Is a government God?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:45 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
As long as there is welfare and food stamps it’s taxation without representation all over again. People who receive this should not be allowed to vote. There is a reason why it used to be only landowners were allowed to vote.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:51 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
quote:You are free to do as you wish. I’m just attempting to apply a Christian worldview to topics of discussion.
I agree with some of your post, but very much disagree with the rest.
quote:It was certainly God’s will that what happened happened, because nothing happens that God didn’t will. However, God does ordain even man’s sinful actions to bring about good results. That doesn’t mean sin is justified, only that God works things for good for His people and for His glory.
And I believe if our forefathers had would have had the same level of scriptural discernment as you on the issue we are discussing, that the USA would have never existed. We would have never declared independence from England, and the whole world would be a much darker and tyrannical place. I personally believe it was God’s will for the USA to be created and for things to go down like they did.
I don’t believe every aspect of the Revolution was sinful. If lesser magistrates like judges, governors, and so on defy their superiors in the name of executing their offices for those under their charge, they can very well do so. Their authority can justify rebellion. I don’t believe individual citizens have such authority or right to rebel unless their rebellion is against a direct command to disobey God.
quote:Happy to do so, brother, and same you you
But, I’m happy to have the discussion with a fellow Christian with a different POV and theology on this. Happy New Year and God bless.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:02 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:13 pm to FooManChoo
If God wants me to fund endless Democrat fraud and corruption, I'm on the wrong team.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:13 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:25 pm to FooManChoo
The Christians that began the Revolutionary War against the King of England, for over-taxation, would disagree.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:35 pm to Cotten
quote:
I certainly don't believe Christians are obligated by God to pay taxes to a government funding mass abortions, literal sex trafficking of children, or over indulgence on junk food (food stamps) as just a handful of examples.
It is one of the most misunderstood verses of scripture when read in isolation from the context in which Jesus was speaking. And it sadly is “conservatives” who most often misappropriate the true intent of Christ’s teaching moment.
Jesus was replying to a hostile rhetorical question from the Pharisees and His response subtly challenged both the Pharisees and Roman imperial authority. When read in context, this verse does not advocate for paying taxes; rather, it encourages Christians to prioritize obedience to God over earthly powers when conflicts arise.
Christ’s reply was meant to show that allegiance to God’s heavenly realm ultimately supersedes allegiance to Rome’s worldly realm. Christ’s directive to “render unto Caesar” thus serves as a subtle act of defiance against the Roman state rather than a straightforward command to pay taxes.
Paying the Imperial Tax to Caesar….
…Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?”
But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?” “Caesar’s,” they replied.
Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:56 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:00 pm to FooManChoo
You are out of touch.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:05 pm to FooManChoo
If our own Government is working to replace us with a people and a religion that intends to make Martyrs of the Christians, are we still obligated to pay taxes to that Government?
I think you should answer "Yes" because it maybe God's Will to make Martyrs of the Christians and to use Marxists and Islamists to do God's Work in this area.
I think the Bible says that there will be a Tribulation and an Anti Christ that both will impose suffering on the Christians.
The Roman Government was really bad, but, Jesus said "pay your taxes" despite that.
I do see and do understand why you say that we are obligated to pay our taxes, even if the US Govt wants to eventually destroy our culture and our Christian religion.
I think you should answer "Yes" because it maybe God's Will to make Martyrs of the Christians and to use Marxists and Islamists to do God's Work in this area.
I think the Bible says that there will be a Tribulation and an Anti Christ that both will impose suffering on the Christians.
The Roman Government was really bad, but, Jesus said "pay your taxes" despite that.
I do see and do understand why you say that we are obligated to pay our taxes, even if the US Govt wants to eventually destroy our culture and our Christian religion.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:11 pm to OchoDedos
I hear it was never ratified
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:13 pm to Captain Rumbeard
quote:God wants you to be obedient to Him. He'll deal with the Democrats and their fraud and corruption in His perfect timing and justice.
If God wants me to fund endless Democrat fraud and corruption, I'm on the wrong team.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:18 pm to Champagne
Yeah frick all that, how about we make martyrs of them.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:23 pm to Kjnstkmn
But Foo is right. Jesus did say that the Jews should pay their taxes to the Roman Empire, despite the fact that the Roman Govt imposes a brutal "master-slave" kind of military dictatorship over the Jews and Christians.
Christians were required by Jesus to pay taxes to the Romans despite the fact that the Roman Government would execute you just for being Christian!
If the US Govt is ever conquered by Islamist Marxist that outlaw Christianity, by Jesus's Words, Christians would still be morally commanded to pay the taxes, according to Foo's strict interpretation of the Bible.
Foo is not wrong here. That is what Jesus said.
Christians were required by Jesus to pay taxes to the Romans despite the fact that the Roman Government would execute you just for being Christian!
If the US Govt is ever conquered by Islamist Marxist that outlaw Christianity, by Jesus's Words, Christians would still be morally commanded to pay the taxes, according to Foo's strict interpretation of the Bible.
Foo is not wrong here. That is what Jesus said.
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