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re: “The United States of America controls the Strait of Hormuz.” - Pete Hegseth

Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:57 pm to
So traffic is completely free to transit at will?

Otherwise, why are we restricting traffic?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38311 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:05 pm to
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The helicopter was not shot down, comrade. It had an unscheduled kinetic collision with an enemy drone and subsequently found itself in the Gulf!

It’s approaching NASA level descriptions.

Unintentional low-altitude interception of a foreign body resulting in unplanned incapacitation and disassembly of the aircraft, and its rapid descent to the surface.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:09 pm to
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Unintentional low-altitude interception of a foreign body resulting in unplanned incapacitation and disassembly of the aircraft, and its rapid descent to the surface.


Posted by Bob_Sugar
Member since Mar 2026
260 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:12 pm to
It was hit by a drone you fricking retard.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 5:12 am to
Wishful thinking.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 6:56 am to
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If we did oil would be cheaper and inflation wouldn’t be up.


THIS! Clown show.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5051 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 6:58 am to
maga cult people grew up as huge WWF/WWE wrestling fans. I’m convinced.

They love scripted performance. Don’t gaf about results. They’re just here for the show and they love the unstoppable villain vibe that trump and his posse give off.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 6:59 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:01 am to
I see the Iran cheerleading squad has weighed in.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28623 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:19 am to
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How did a helicopter get shot down then?


How do crimes still happen if police/justice system has established law and order in our country.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3382 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:27 am to
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This ^^^^ is similar to what is happening right now in the US, the difference is the Viet Nam War was largely unnecessary while the military action against the Islamic Regime is to ensure the world is not facing the uncertainties that come with the Islamic Regime possessing a nuclear weapon or a military that is capable of serious carnage against its gulf neighbors.
If anyone ever wondered why a lot of history professors have drinking problems, this is why. The futility of their profession is being demonstrated on an hourly basis.

"Wait, this time is different! I swear!"
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 8:31 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9573 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:21 am to
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to ensure the world is not facing the uncertainties that come with the Islamic Regime possessing a nuclear weapon or a military that is capable of serious carnage against its gulf neighbors.



The problem is they were already capable and continue to be capable of causing serious carnage against their neighbors. We under estimated that capability and over estimated our ability to swiftly defeat it with air strikes.

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The US could clamp down on all traffic through the strait of Hormuz to zero and while doing so completely crush the Islamic Regime both economically and militarily. The only reason this is not happening is because many inside the US and around the world view the US as the aggressor/bad guys.....the US is supposed to be the good guys.


U.S. Navy faces significant tactical vulnerabilities in the Strait of Hormuz due to Iran’s asymmetric warfare strategies that again we under estimated. That narrow, 21-mile-wide waterway acts as a "kill box" that restricts maneuvering and subjects, high-cost American assets to low-cost threats like drones, fast-attack boats, sea mines, coastal missile batteries etc. Those little boats with machine guns and rockets batteries on them might seem laughable against our navy escorts but Iran has thousands of them and have been seen deploying hundreds at a time. This is why we arent escorting a lot of ships directly. We are giving them intelligence and communicating to guide those that want to try to run Iran's blockade the best we can...with a little bit of success.

Domestic war weariness and global sentiment viewing us as the aggressors may play into why we arent completely crushing Iran but thats not why Trump is being so cautious. He hates seeing losses and in that kind of threat environment, you are going to take losses.
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