re: The trope Confederates were traitors is bullshite

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Member when the “Patriots” were all for history revision and obliteration of the CSA statues because of “muh-rebell scum”?

Now they are clutching their pearls and sputtering because Jackson, Columbus, Jefferson, Washington, etc are targeted. The WW2 and Lincoln Memorials defaced? OMG! How can this be?

This is the natural result of driving down Libtard Lane.

Hint: After the next left turn is murder of those who remember history.

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Yeah.

Anybody who thinks this is just going to organically end with statues is kidding themselves. It’s got to be stopped in it’s tracks...decisively.

I guess you missed the day when Ms. Teacher Union discussed states rights, protection tariffs, internal improvements, and having an overwhelming opposition political majority pushing it.

Come to think of it, Ms. Teacher Union probably called in sick that day too!

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They were not traitors. They were the epitome of the American spirit.

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When I think of the American spirit, American values my mind immediately goes to the confederacy fighting to preserve the institution of slavery.

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The trope Confederates were traitors

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Traitors aren't always bad.

Being traitors to a bad cause is a good thing.

Being traitors to a good cause is a bad thing.

Considering what the civil war was fought over, which of the above would you say applies?

You have to win to not be called traitors.

If the Americans would have lost the Revolution. Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, and etc. would have all been hanged and labeled traitors for the rest of history.

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For some reason a lot of people still cling to a romanticized narrative of traitorous slavers who fought against the US. They think it’s their cultural heritage or something. Very sad.

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I agree. I have hundreds of letters written by Civil War soldiers on both sides and the subject of slavery is NEVER mentioned

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yep that was the only reason.

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Slavery was the main reason. You're in denial if you think otherwise

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This is quite different than a collection of Democrats forming their own Government because they disagreed with the results of a fair and free election, and to preserve their (slavery) way of economic prominence.

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You'd have a valid argument, if you took the time to actually study history instead regurgitating what you heard somewhere in a bathroom stall. I believe the term is "spoon fed"

No one teaches this reality ...the con game is in the written history taught in schools. Until you approach one simple question ...your version of treason is based on ignorance.

Go online and ask this very simple question. If Congress passed legislation two days before Lincoln was sworn in, that confirmed the existence and support of slavery for the nation. Ask What in the world was the North fighting for? Slavery is not an issue for the north to go to war over. What is the answer? When you can provide that answer let's debate.

Five slave states remained in the Union? Why? I thought the sold history fallacy was that the war was fought to free the slaves.

Lee was offered the position of commander of the Union armies ....two days later Virginia secedes. What was the north fighting for? On that same day, the Union called for troops and the discussion with Lee was the pending invasion of the south. Lee understands the Constitution more than whatever comic book the slave freedom idea originated from.

The Constitution was an agreement between thirteen colonies ....not an introduction to slavery in surrendering "State's rights" Read the document again and understand it's meaning. There was a justification in seceding.

Years later, Why not immediately?
When Lincoln introduced the idea of the Emancipation Proclamation ....his top generals threatened to leave their positions knowing their troops would not accept losing their lives over blacks ....The north is and always been more racist than the south.

The excuse presented was the proclamation was to convince the southern blacks to rise up against their southern owners.....It took over two years for this to be stated?

Again,, exactly what was the North Fighting for?

The answer is buried in the secession documents ..

Until then declaring it treason as a Monday morning Arm Chair Quarterback ...is worthless.

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Much like 1776, you have to win for this to be true.

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There was this old British dude named John Harrington who closed the book on this one when he said, "Treason doth never prosper for if it prospers, none dare call it treason." He later went on to invent the toilet. Just thought I throw that out there.

They were Americans, then they formed an insurgency government and attacked the United States, they were fricking traitors