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re: The tariffs imposed on US from Trump spreadsheet are literally just the trade ratio
Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:34 pm to Drizzt
Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:34 pm to Drizzt
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So you are admitting that if the cheap imports were more expensive people would be more likely to buy US products? Welcome to the fold brother.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:53 am to SloaneRanger
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I guess we’ll need to hear the details on that and how it was calculated (if it even was).
Rather than a flippant response, perhaps you should do a little research.
You think a "listed" tariff by a foreign country is what is paid
Tell me you have never done business outside the US without telling me you have never done business outside the US.
Bless your heart, you think its Wal Mart where the price listed is paid.
Let the big boys negotiate this, I think they have done a wee bit more research that you.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:04 am to Breaux
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Half the people here believed Trump was the CIC over the past 4 years and would be reinstated.
You people just can't stop lying.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:49 am to sgallo3
quote:NO!
Can you not read? the chart says "Tariffs charged to the US"
The chart specifically INCLUDES currency manipulation and trade barriers. Surprise, surprise, surprise something Trump presented is being uniformly misrepresented in the press ... again.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:59 am to SloaneRanger
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I guess we’ll need to hear the details on that and how it was calculated (if it even was).
We will hear those details about the time we hear the details on how Goldberg's phone number was on Waltz's contact list.
For better or worse, the Trump Administration doesn't explain their mistakes. Now stop being a Cuck Libtard for being curious and expecting answers!!!
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:10 am to Riverside
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No, Cambodia doesn’t have a 10% tariff.
Does it impose a 97% tariff on goods sold to the United States as asserted in the chart?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:19 am to NC_Tigah
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The chart specifically INCLUDES currency manipulation and trade barriers.
The chart includes it, but the formula they used to come up with the number does not.
The white house has released the info already.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:20 am to NC_Tigah
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The chart specifically INCLUDES currency manipulation and trade barriers. Surprise, surprise, surprise something Trump presented is being uniformly misrepresented in the press ... again.
You’re misinformed. Read up and get back to us.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:33 am to sgallo3
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Teaching financial literacy must start at the top. The members of the Trump administration obviously lack the knowledge and tools to make informed financial decisions.
It is the only possible explanation for how they came up with these numbers:
China does not have a 67% tariff on U.S. goods (it's 7.3%). The EU does not have a 39% tariff on U.S. goods (it's 5.2%). The numbers are bollocks.
So where do they come from? The official explanation from the U.S. Trade Representative is here. Its baloney:
James Surowiecki @JamesSurowiecki - 0:22 UTC · Apr 3, 2025
Just figured out where these fake tariff rates come from. They didn't actually calculate tariff rates + non-tariff barriers, as they say they did. Instead, for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country's exports to us.
So we have a $17.9 billion trade deficit with Indonesia. Its exports to us are $28 billion. $17.9/$28 = 64%, which Trump claims is the tariff rate Indonesia charges us. What extraordinary nonsense this is.
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Even given that it's Trump, I cannot believe they said "We'll just divide the trade deficit by imports and tell people that's the tariff rate." And then they decided to set our tariffs by just cutting that totally made-up rate in half! This is so dumb and deceptive.
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.. it's actually worse than I thought: in calculating the tariff rate, Trump's people only used the trade deficit in goods. So even though we run a trade surplus in services with the world, those exports don't count as far as Trump is concerned.
The last point is a major one, for China, but especially for the EU :
EU-US trade in goods and services reached an impressive €1.6 trillion in 2023. This means that every day, €4.4 billion worth of goods and services cross the Atlantic between the EU and the US.
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The total bilateral trade in goods reached €851 billion in 2023. The EU exported €503 billion of goods to the US market, while importing €347 billion; this resulted in a goods trade surplus of €157 billion for the EU.
Total bilateral trade in services between the EU and the US was worth €746 billion in 2023. The EU exported €319 billion of services to the US, while importing €427 billion from the US; this resulted in a services trade deficit of €109 billion for the EU.
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EU-US goods and services trade is balanced: the difference between EU exports to the US and US exports to the EU stood at €48 billion in 2023; the equivalent of just 3% of the total trade between the EU and the US.
Despite that Trump has decreed a 20% on all goods from the EU. The natural countermeasure from the EU will be to put a 20+% tariff on all import of U.S. services.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 6:36 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:43 am to sgallo3
Trump apparently doesn’t know what he’s doing. That’s becoming more and more apparent.
The man has, at best, a superficial understanding of history and economics.
The man has, at best, a superficial understanding of history and economics.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:45 am to VOR
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VOR
You’ve never been right about anything
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:50 am to VOR
3 months down. You might not make it pal. Slow down
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:50 am to sgallo3
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The chart specifically INCLUDES currency manipulation and trade barriers.
The chart includes it, but the formula they used to come up with the number does not.
What does the variable "phi" indicate in "the formula they used"?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:56 am to slackster
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The chart specifically INCLUDES currency manipulation and trade barriers.
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You’re misinformed. Read up and get back to us.

Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:57 am to NC_Tigah
Just because they put words on the chart doesn't make it truthful.
The rates were based in trade imbalance and nothing else.
The rates were based in trade imbalance and nothing else.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:of course it's truthful. "Trade Barriers" is a widely encompassing term.
Just because they put words on the chart doesn't make it truthful.
What is not true is the OP claim that "the Administration appears to be calling a 97% tariff."
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