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re: The strikes on Iran are a fraud of the highest order

Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:45 pm to
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We have seen absolutely 0 evidence that Iran was anywhere close to obtaining a nuclear weapon.


From an AP story May 31st:

"The report by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency — which was seen by The Associated Press — says that as of May 17, Iran has amassed 408.6 kilograms (900.8 pounds) of uranium enriched up to 60%.

That’s an increase of 133.8 kilograms (294.9 pounds) — or almost 50% — since the IAEA’s last report in February. The 60% enriched material is a short, technical step away from weapons-grade levels of 90%. A report in February put this stockpile level at 274.8 kilograms (605.8 pounds)."

Power generation only requires 5% and some advanced reactors up to 20%. Iran has continuously said they are only trying to generate power. Iran has continuously said they are not interested in nuclear weapons. The Iranians are lying.

I watched Iranian scum clerics take over a modern westernized country. I watched the Iranians kidnap 66 Americans from the American embassy in Tehran and hold them hostage for over a year as a feckless President Carter cowered to the scumbag Iranians. The Iranians and their proxies the huti's, hamas and hezbollah have kidnapped, hijacked, terrorized and murdered Israelis, Americans and various Europeans for nearly half a century. It is high time they had their day of reckoning. And only an idiot would think that they should be allowed anywhere near a nuclear weapon!
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9441 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:45 pm to
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"Creating the State of Israel was a mistake" Don't know much about world history, do you? And Iran;s ruling Ayatollahs are worldly recognized as radicalized Muslims with an often & widely stated goal of eradication of Israel from the world. And your "source" is a joke.


What is my "source" what are you babbling about? Im the only one in these threads that actually provides references to actual history. You are just repeating a Lindsey Graham approved media message.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24763 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:49 pm to
You have seen 0 evidence because Iran has not allowed inspectors in to see you dumbass.

They have refused to allow inspectors in to see what all they are doing with their nuclear program. Why would they refuse this??
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
2878 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:50 pm to
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For energy

Why shouldn't they be allowed to do that?



If you believe that then you're the most gullible frick on the planet. I would say I'm surprised people are this dumb, but then I'm reminded that over 70 .million people voted for Joe Biden.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85035 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:51 pm to
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I cannot understand why so many posters buy into their victim narrative. Where does that get anyone?



Why do people buy into Muslims always being the victim? Victim hood and social justice is deeply imbedded in Islam.



They will kill to be the dominant religion on earth.










Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170215 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:53 pm to
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I cannot understand why so many posters buy into their victim narrative. Where does that get anyone?

They're pretty good with propaganda. And our government and media carries a lot of water for them. Media in other countries reports a lot differently on their frickery than American media.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58442 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Why do people buy into Muslims always being the victim?


I don’t think Muslims are always the victim. Neither Iran nor Israel is trustworthy but Israel ropes the US into many more conflicts than Iran does.

Oh and social justice is a cornerstone of the Catholic faith.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85035 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Come on man.... really? Usually your more in tuned than that. If Iran is so innocent and has nothing to hide, why won't they allow inspectors in? That would've cleared all this up! It's not like this issue just started last week, the world has been attempting to persuade Iran to cooperate and allow inspections for years.




I was agreeing to not blindly trust government actors.


We should be skeptical of Iran.


We should also be skeptical of our government’s reasoning for getting involved in conflicts.



The fauci and bio labs is just a recent thing where they says this wasn’t happening but then a virus gets out and stops most of the world.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170215 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:55 pm to
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We should be skeptical of Iran.


We should also be skeptical of our government’s reasoning for getting involved in conflicts.

Correct.

Hopefully we don't get more involved in this than we already are. And we should be sending Israel a bill.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1507 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:57 pm to
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Creating the state of Israel was mistake one


Noone created Israel. Israel fought for and rebook their own territory after WW2. The Israelis started fighting for the area in the late nineteenth century while it was still part of the Ottoman Empire. Israel was not a Palestinian state. The land of Israel had been controlled by the Ottoman empire for hundreds of years up until the Ottomans sided with Germany in WW1 and lost the war. The land was taken from the Ottomans after WW1.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85035 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:57 pm to
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Oh and social justice is a cornerstone of the Catholic faith.


And Joe Biden is Catholic and Catholic charities help flood our country with immigrants.



But Islam actually went through a period of implementing Marxism. You can’t be Muslim without being a victim.


quote:

1. Quranic Principles (610–632 CE): • The Quran, revealed to Muhammad, stresses justice (‘adl) and equity. Verses like Surah Al-Nisa 4:135 call for fairness, even against personal interests, and Surah Al-Hujurat 49:13 emphasizes human equality regardless of race or status.




They are the original social justice warriors.



I know Christians talk about giving to the poor and being equal in the eyes of god, but I don’t know that it says to make wealth redistribution tax laws.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 4:12 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41257 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:00 pm to
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Neither Iran nor Israel is trustworthy but Israel ropes the US into many more conflicts than Iran does.


What conflicts has Israel "roped"us into?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58442 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:00 pm to
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And Joe Biden is Catholic and Catholic charities help flood our country with immigrants.


Relevance?

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But Islam actually went through a period of implementing Marxism. You can’t be Muslim without being a victim.


And Israelis are not victims?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
20937 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:09 pm to
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You have seen 0 evidence because Iran has not allowed inspectors in to see you dumbass.

They have refused to allow inspectors in to see what all they are doing with their nuclear program. Why would they refuse this?


Yup. I made this point in another thread.
I totally understand not trusting our CIA and others in our federal government but on the subject of Iran, their history is indefensible.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:09 pm to
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The Iranians. And the Syrians. And the Lebanese.

Maybe Israel should ask itself why it has so many enemies in the region. If everyone seems like an a-hole to you sometimes it's because your'e the a-hole.


Israel is the victim. Even though they're the biggest, baddest motherfricker in the region, with an even bigger, badder motherfricker backing them, they're still the victim. They'll remain the victim, and they'll never, ever allow anyone or anything to rob them of their victimhood. Ever.

Before long. They'll reaffirm that victimhood. Somehow, some way another Hamas attack will inexplicably slip through, and once again Israel will show the world what it means to be a true victim, even though they are the only nuclear power in the Middle East.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58442 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:09 pm to
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What conflicts has Israel "roped"us into?


They have Trump scouring Facebook posts looking for pro-Palestinian content do he can deport people in America legally for starters.

But let’s take a stroll down memory lane.

The U.S. provided significant military and financial support to Israel during the 1967 Six-Day War and 1973 Yom Kippur War. In 1973, the U.S. airlifted weapons to Israel and went on high nuclear alert when the Soviet Union threatened to intervene.

The 1979 takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and subsequent hostage crisis were partially driven by perceptions of U.S. imperialism and support for Israel.

In 1983 suicide bombers (linked to Hezbollah, backed by Iran) killed 241 U.S. Marines. This was partly retaliation for U.S. presence and perceived support for Israel’s military actions in Lebanon during the Lebanon War.

We have spent a gargantuan amount of money funding Israel in its never-ending conflict with Palestinians.





Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58442 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:11 pm to
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They have refused to allow inspectors in to see what all they are doing with their nuclear program. Why would they refuse this??


Maybe for the same reason the IDF won’t let any journalists into Gaza.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52678 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:12 pm to
Whatever the reasoning, justifications, lies or propaganda that got them to this point I'll say this. Watching you cry about it has made it worth it.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107875 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:12 pm to
You hate the Jews, we get it.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
82614 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:13 pm to
Powertool hates him some Jews.
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