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re: The segregated South was FAR safer for black people than the Democrat ruled cities today

Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:27 pm to
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You are a mindless, bubble-headed fool.


DickRider has spoken. And what a valuable contribution to the thread it was.

I guess we all consider this the final word on the matter, yes?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28371 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:27 pm to
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The people responsible for this got off. Definitely not safe for blacks back then, even compared to today’s inner city problems

I know Emmit Till was badly beaten to death, but that photo was taken after his body had been in the river a few days. All bodies look really bad after that, even when not beaten. Pretty much beyond recognition.
Not saying that it changes what happened to him, which was unacceptable, but the photos are intended to provoke a reaction.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 8:30 pm
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:32 pm to
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Poster should have just went ahead and said, "you know, you're absolutely right. But this one time, back in the day, something really bad happened to this one guy. You should feel bad about that even though you're right."


It was definitely not just this one guy. Countless blacks were victims of crimes like this and falsely imprisoned (see: The Hurricane).

Malcolm X’s father was tortured and murdered as well. Same happened to 4/5 uncles.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:34 pm to
This might well be true. But without data with which we can compare we would just be:

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:34 pm to
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It was definitely not just this one guy. Countless blacks were victims of crimes like this and falsely imprisoned (see: The Hurricane).


It isn't countless

In fact, it's been fairly well documented.

You'd STILL have been better off in the segregated south than in most inner city black neighborhoods.

Honestly. It's not really all that close.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:35 pm to
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You are a mindless, bubble-headed fool.




Oh Eric... I mean, texshidder.

Play nice.

ACK! ACK!
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28371 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:37 pm to
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(see: The Hurricane).

That happened in Patterson, New Jersey. You know, the New Jersey with all the democrats.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:40 pm to
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That happened in Patterson, New Jersey. You know, the New Jersey with all the democrats.


And, during this incident.

Paterson Mayor - Dem
NJO Gov - Dem
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17403 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:45 pm to
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The people responsible for this got off.
Snitches get stitches
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13445 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:47 pm to
Where was Malcolm X murdered?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18349 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:25 pm to
Had the Great Migrations occurred earlier than 1911, AAs would've been much better off.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:26 pm to
They would have been safer without The Drug War, that is for sure.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:32 pm to
Desegregation devastated black small businesses for one. Immigrants moved in to fill the void
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18931 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:19 pm to
It probably looked VERY segregated both north and south where black people were shot today as in most days.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14292 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:05 am to
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I guess we all consider this the final word on the matter.

So, let me ask you. Do you think that the segregated South was FAR safer for black people than the Democrat ruled cities today?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91239 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:01 am to
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They owned businesses, had nuclear families etc.


They even had their own special reserved seating, water fountains, schools, bathrooms. I bet that was nice for only 12% of the population. Now they have to fight the other 88% for use of the same facilities
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91239 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:23 am to
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Emit Till was tortured and then brutally murders and the people who did that walked with zero convictions. He wasn’t the only black to have that happen to him.


They walked but later when they admitted to killing Till their life was absolute hell. From Wikipedia

quote:

After Bryant and Milam admitted to Huie that they had killed Till, the support base of the two men eroded in Mississippi.[110] Many of their former friends and supporters, including those who had contributed to their defense funds, cut them off. Blacks boycotted their shops, which went bankrupt and closed, and banks refused to grant them loans to plant crops.[40] After struggling to secure a loan and find someone who would rent to him, Milam managed to secure 217 acres and a $4,000 loan to plant cotton, but blacks refused to work for him. He was forced to pay whites higher wages.[111] Eventually, Milam and Bryant relocated to Texas, but their infamy followed them; they continued to generate extreme animosity from locals. After several years, they returned to Mississippi. Such was the animosity toward the murderers that in 1961, while in Texas, when Bryant recognized the license plate of a Tallahatchie County resident, he called out a greeting and identified himself. The resident, upon hearing the name, drove away without speaking to Bryant.[112] Milam found work as a heavy equipment operator, but ill health forced him into retirement. Over the years, Milam was tried for offenses such as assault and battery, writing bad checks, and using a stolen credit card. He died of spinal cancer on December 30, 1980, at the age of 61.[111] Bryant worked as a welder while in Texas, until increasing blindness forced him to give up this employment. At some point, he and Carolyn divorced; he remarried in 1980. He opened a store in Ruleville, Mississippi. He was convicted in 1984 and 1988 of food stamp fraud. In a 1985 interview, he denied that he had killed Till, but said: "if Emmett Till hadn't got out of line, it probably wouldn't have happened to him." Fearing economic boycotts and retaliation, Bryant lived a private life and refused to be photographed or reveal the exact location of his store, explaining: "this new generation is different and I don't want to worry about a bullet some dark night".[113] He died of cancer on September 1, 1994, at the age of 63.[114]


Sounds like the vast majority of whites and blacks did not agree with their actions
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18349 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:39 am to
Folks love telling the first half of that story but neglect that second half. Looks like capitalism, freedom of association, etc. won.

Also, TRM Howard was the person who brought the Till case to national public light. He's forgotten nowadays b/c he was a staunch defender of free market capitalism.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:40 am
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