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re: The right needs their own version of counter NGOs

Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:28 am to
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:28 am to
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Before you ever get to any of that, there is a bigger problem and it’s the American voter. Low information and apathetic. Not to mention the 51% that don’t contribute. That votes but one way. Government issued bribery. The system is corrupted and the one mechanism to fix the system is just as broken and corrupted.


That is my point
How do you fix this dilemma

To start get the 30 million illegals out of the country

And birthright citizenship

End the incentives, welfare, education, healthcare for immigrants

Tax remittances

Make it harder to vote to weed out the morons and uniformed from participating
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:32 am to
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First thing first is to fix the demographics.

Once that is fixed, we can then go about fixing things through the Constitutional process by electing better politicians and courts


Think any of this is ever really going to be "fixed"? Are we past the tipping point?

The "constitutional process" and jurisprudence have been kneecapped. Meanwhile we're getting mirages and messy, sloppy "enforcement".
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:34 am to
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Think any of this is ever really going to be "fixed"? Are we past the tipping point?


I think it could be achievable with the correct makeup of the electorate. But not in the current state of the electorate, not a chance.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:43 am to
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White House and R side of Congress want us to accept that our greatest industry is war, and we have to export it to the rest of the world to make a small fraction unimaginably wealthy, and make Congress wealthy in the process.


100% spot on.

America's War Industry = Death Industry. Just like the Abortion Industry.

99% of our "reps" are all dishonest, despicably prostitutes and phonies. Multi-multi-millionaires via blood-money by the time they leave Congress.

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We can’t keep doing this. We are destroying the US dollar.


They can keep on doing it, debasing middle-class wealth and running the table. And also know there's not a single damn thing we-the-people can do about it. The plan since 1913. Both "teams" benefited.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:47 am to
The way I saw it, our reps in DC have had brief windows to "fix" things since 911. They didn't because of $$$ and the global NWO agenda.

Optimism may be eternal, but I don't think many of us saw what was to come since.

Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68781 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:51 am to
Yes, The Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute and Federalist Society are all examples of conservative organizations.
However, they are politically active, even if behind the scenes. The Federalist
Is very influential with judicial nominees.
Heritage and Cato influence and even engineer the nominations of political candidates, DJT, Jr. being one of them.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54694 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:57 am to
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Adding $500 billion to a defense budget that is already more money than the defense budgets of
Russia, China, Germany, UK, India, Saudi Arabia, France, Japan, South Korea, Italy, Israel, Ukraine, Poland COMBINED at a time when we are 40 Trillion in debt


This isnt specific to MAGA. This has been happening since the dawn of America.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11342 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Adding $500 billion to a defense budget that is already more money than the defense budgets of
Russia, China, Germany, UK, India, Saudi Arabia, France, Japan, South Korea, Italy, Israel, Ukraine, Poland COMBINED at a time when we are 40 Trillion in debt


This is your example of MAGA not wanting limited government? Nothing about freedom or fewer regulations? Lower taxes? Just the military budget, one of the few things strictly reserved for the federal government?

This is such a simplistic argument. The critical issue is what the money is spent on. If I want to spend $500b on the military but remove $1t from elsewhere, am I still for big government?

If I want more money to remove illegals, am I still for big government? Or am I simply asking the government to do its job?

If I want nationwide voter ID, am I asking for big government or just honest elections?

Conservatives, and those who claim to be conservative but always defend the democrats, have this ridiculous notion that any spending or any government involvement is "big government."

In reality it usually just boils down to "anyone who wants to spend money I don't is big government."
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
408 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:32 pm to
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There are plenty of right leaning NGOs. Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, Family Research Council, Americans for Prosperity, etc.


I could be wrong, but I don't think these are NGOs in the sense that they are not primarily funded by the government. These are private organizations funded by private donations.

NGOs are funded primarily or largely by government dollars and serve to augment a government function or capacity. That's my common sense definition of an NGO.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70438 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:40 pm to
NGO's ARE the government. They are essentially money laundering firms for turning tax dollars via federal grants into graft for politically connected people and campaign funds for machine politicians.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:40 pm to
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MAGA was never interested in limited government. They've attempted to redefine what "the right" or "conservatism" is to include it.


I voted Trump but he is not as far right as I would like.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:47 pm to
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That small government/libertarian/classical liberal framework only works in small scale/homogenous societies


Hell…I’ve given up on small govt. Id settle for effective govt that doesn’t go $2T in debt every year and fund groups that are actively trying to destroy western civilization.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87305 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:48 pm to
Parallel structures for the right are desperately needed but I'm afraid we're probably already too late to capitalize.

The left has the overwhelming majority of NGOs and like 99% of those working on the ground. The left has an increasing percentage of churches and 100% of those involved on the ground in political activism. The left has the overwhelming majority of universities and all of that community's contribution to the grassroots fights. The left has most government agencies and several that are traditionally overwhelmingly progressive by nature. The left has the majority of most state agencies. The left has all of MSM. The left has at least an influential voice even in institutions that serve a primarily moderate or conservative following - sports leagues, for example.

We need places to park people who want to fight for us and want to raise a family on that $$$. We don't have anything like that. What are the closest things - Heritage Foundation? Who just broke itself in half because someone declined to condemn Tucker to hell? LOL
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70438 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:17 pm to
We don’t need to compete on graft, we need to destroy graft. We’re polling 50/50 with the entire apparatus of the media, NGO’s, government bureaucracy, intelligence agencies, and the corporate elites arrayed against us. We are winning.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87305 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:19 pm to
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We don’t need to compete on graft, we need to destroy graft. We’re polling 50/50 with the entire apparatus of the media, NGO’s, government bureaucracy, intelligence agencies, and the corporate elites arrayed against us. We are winning.


I don't think it's graft. The things we care about are synonymous with the success of the US.
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