re: The Republican war on women, George Will's turn

i already said you had valid criticisms of his article

that statement, and my response, was a much more general commentary on the issue

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Women who have actually been sexually assaulted, the important part of the victimhood, certainly do not covet that position, and their hurt far exceeds any incidental consideration which you and others have labeled here a "privilege".

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it's easy to say that when we're assuming a traditional rape with a clear victim and a clear perp

that privilege becomes a major problem when you're infringing on the rights/defenses of an accused person (who may not have done it. remember they are only accused and are supposed to be presumed innocent. this privilege assumes guilt). that is why your average joe is scared of all of this, especially with a feminist-led, ever-increasing definition of rape

and as for the college issue not all "sexual assault" is rape. grabbing a girl's arse at a bar, which i do not agree with and i do not do, is not really a big deal. yet, she's not "one in five women" who have been "sexually assaulted". when you add in these silly/small examples with REAL RAPE, you do a disservice to the women who are legitimately raped

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Then how do we know how many go unreported if they aren't reported to the police or to someone who can compile the statistics?

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Simple. Assume that every woman who claims to have been assaulted has been assaulted. When that comes out to be 20% of all women, state that 20% of all women have been assaulted. It's a lie, sure, but there's an agenda to promote.

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if 20% of all college women are sexually assaulted

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Are you stupid enough to believe this liberal lie?

Would you put your daughter at this kind of (alleged) risk by sending her to college?

bullshite.

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it would be cool to have a female or two in this discussion

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You disregarded my opinion as not relevant to the discussion.

But then again, I'm a crazy, gun-toting, conservative. I'm not saying what you want to hear.

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Do you think Crystal Gail Mangum (Duke Lacrosse) should have been prosecuted for her rape lie?

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it would be cool to have a female or two in this discussion

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I'm a female, and she should have been prosecuted to this fullest extent of the Law.

It's bad enough having to constantly look over your shoulder when walking through a parking lot at night hand holding keys just in case you need to set off an alarm or gouge an attacker in the eyes, or worrying about whether you should install a security system in your daughter's apartment, without having these maroons, these professional grievance mongers whine about "micro-aggression".

All it does is trivialize actual rape, which I can tell you is about the greatest fear a woman faces. The only thing worse than rape in the mind of a woman is burying one of her children.

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I mean this really isn't a debated or controversial thing I'm saying. I don't understand why you're so defensive about it.

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I think it comes back to that famous quote (might have it wrong) "there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."

I'm sure most people would just like to see the source for the 20% statistic.

That is an insane number. 1 in 5 women. Why would anyone send their child to a place where that happens?

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Consider the supposed campus epidemic of rape, a.k.a. “sexual assault.”

You think he was talking about overpriced textbooks, instead?
No, he's talking about the lies that sick fricks like you tell. If you'd actually read the next few sentences, he debunks by using simple arithmetic the fuzzy math that tells women that 25% of women are victims of sexual assault (by the way, not all sexual assault victims are rape victims, you liar)
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The statistics are: One in five women is sexually assaulted while in college, and only 12 percent of assaults are reported. Simple arithmetic demonstrates that if the 12 percent reporting rate is correct, the 20 percent assault rate is preposterous. Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute notes, for example, that in the four years 2009 to 2012 there were 98 reported sexual assaults at Ohio State. That would be 12 percent of 817 total out of a female student population of approximately 28,000, for a sexual assault rate of approximately 2.9 percent — too high but nowhere near 20?percent.
You are a liar, and your lies trivialize the suffering of victims of rape. This is the kind of thing that complete a-holes do when they place too much importance on their political beliefs.

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It's just democrats trying to convince another group of people they are victims they can get the government to throw money at.

There are enough laws already to deal with rape and it should be dealt with promptly and without embarrassment to the victim.

This BS about 20% of women being raped while in college can't be true.

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I think it comes back to that famous quote (might have it wrong) "there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."

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okay but there are plenty of "statistics" that get posted and celebrated on here.

I can understand if it was some ultra liberal vs conservative issue or something because people on here are going to deny anything that causes cognitive dissonance, but the percentage of rapes that are or aren't reported shouldn't be a politicized statistic and to be perfectly honest it's kind of disturbing that some of you feel that way.

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I'm sure most people would just like to see the source for the 20% statistic.

That is an insane number. 1 in 5 women. Why would anyone send their child to a place where that happens?

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I'm talking about reported vs unreported. Which has been studied many many times.

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I mean this really isn't a debated or controversial thing I'm saying.

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well i don't think it's right

that 20% figure is via survey after the fact LINK

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A total of 5,446 undergraduate women, between the ages of 18-25, participated as part of a random sample. The survey was anonymous and took about 15 minutes to complete.

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and if you look, "sexual assault" includes something as minimal as an arse grab or "forced kiss"

i don't agree with either, but neither are really a big deal at all and should not be linked with rape or sexual battery