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The real purpose of gun background checks is to have you seek permission from government
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:51 am
They were sold as a safety measure but at the time they were implemented a spokesman for Handgun Control (now Brady Campaign) admitted the real aim was to condition people to believe that they needed government permission to engage in 2nd Amendment activity. No link, I lived it and remember reading it.
And the plan has largely worked, sadly. Even many pro-gun people accept that the checks should exist. But ask yourself, what other rights are you willing to seek government approval for before exercising?
The more you know!
And the plan has largely worked, sadly. Even many pro-gun people accept that the checks should exist. But ask yourself, what other rights are you willing to seek government approval for before exercising?
The more you know!
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:55 am
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:48 am to weagle99
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The real purpose of gun background checks is to have you seek permission from government
NO the real reason is so they can turn you down and eliminate your 2nd amendment rights
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:05 pm to weagle99
quote:Everyone with a brain thinks that checks should exist.
Even many pro-gun people accept that the checks should exist.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:10 pm to weagle99
If the democrats were actually serious about gun safety then they would be advocating gun sweeps in high crime areas and not supporting the ACLU & SPLC who see this as a civil rights infringement.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:46 pm to weagle99
Member when the waiting period was a temporary measure that would be sun-setted once the technology for instant checks came along?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:51 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Not true. While many believe they are fine, others believe they are an unnecessary stepping stone of government regulation. Between the vast availability of acquiring firearms through illegal means and the lack of enforcement by the government on failed checks, as well as the numerous times mass shootings and other murders were performed by people who passed background checks, some people believe it's an infringement on exercising a right that does very little to accomplish the reason for its existence.
Everyone with a brain thinks that checks should exist.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:54 pm to weagle99
So background checks yea or nay?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:55 pm to BarberitosDawg
If they confiscate those weapons in high crime areas, that would violate the 2nd Amendment you say you hold so near and dear.
Looks like you want it both ways, confiscate the other guy's gun but not mine.
Looks like you want it both ways, confiscate the other guy's gun but not mine.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:57 pm to weagle99
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No link, I lived it and remember reading it.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:04 pm to goatmilker
I am against background checks.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:06 pm to mmcgrath
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Everyone with a brain thinks that checks should exist.
What other rights should the government give approval for? Speech? The invented right to have an abortion?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:08 pm to weagle99
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what other rights are you willing to seek government approval for before exercising?
Voting should be restricted.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:08 pm to FooManChoo
Therefore the answer is to prosecute gun crimes more aggressively. I agree with that approach personally.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:12 pm to weagle99
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But ask yourself, what other rights are you willing to seek government approval for before exercising?
You need government approval to hunt, fish, cut hair, and drive a car.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:19 pm to James1960
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If they confiscate those weapons in high crime areas, that would violate the 2nd Amendment you say you hold so near and dear.
Not really. You don't have a right to be an active part of a violent criminal organization like a gang nor do you have the right to be in possession of a stolen gun or any other piece of property.
Start there.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:20 pm to Brosef Stalin
None of those are enumerated Constitutional rights.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:20 pm to TrueTiger
While I agree, there is no Federal right to vote.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:22 pm to mmcgrath
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Everyone with a brain thinks that checks should exist.
Oooh, more moral pontification. Fun.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:27 pm to weagle99
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None of those are enumerated Constitutional rights.
Any individual right stops when it endangers another individuals rights.
* the context is high crime areas with known gang members*
You have a right to make a living via employment...in fact most rights require the ability to support oneself. Should employers be able to do background checks before hiring an individual?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:31 pm to weagle99
True, not enumerated clearly but many scholars sneak it into the 9th amendment.
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