re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

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It appears Ukraine is also one of those countries.

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Is this some sort of “got ya”

Who has more nukes?

There is zero scenarios where Ukraine survives if they could even manage an invasion.

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Yea, they probably will, and 3 months later after they bring those troops in, train them (to their very high standards), equip them (With what?), and deploy them to the battlefield, they MIGHT make a difference. Mobilization won't save Russia from a rapid advance by the Ukrainians.

Ukraine mobilized at the start of the war and those troops are starting to come out of training and be deployed...2 months later

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You're a fricking retard and I hope the Ukrainian military isn't taking any notes from you.

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Why don't you explain how I'm wrong. I don't think you can, I anticipate that you'll just throw more insults and deflect.

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please educate me on the 9 battle drills, small unit tactics, indirect fire support and armor warfare. Seems like you're an expert on everything war.

By the way, what units did you serve in? how many combat tours do you have?

What a Decade-Old Conflict Tells Us About Putin

But one event is missing from these analyses, an episode that combines political and emotional aspects, and helped crystallize Putin’s distrust of the West, his own sense of vulnerability, and his ultimate decision to return as Russia’s president: the 2011 NATO-led intervention in Libya that resulted in the violent death of the country’s eccentric dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

He described the resolution as a “medieval call for a crusade,” another war in a long line of wars initiated by the West—from Serbia to Afghanistan to Iraq—to pursue regime change, sometimes under false pretexts, and ultimately dictate the rules of the global order.

Putin also believed that Medvedev had been naive. In his book All the Kremlin’s Men, Mikhail Zygar, a former editor in chief of the independent Russian TV station Rain, writes that Putin’s entourage whispered in his ear, “Medvedev betrayed Libya, he will betray you as well.”

Zygar writes that “Putin was apoplectic” when Gaddafi was killed. According to several accounts, including current CIA chief William Burns’s book The Back Channel, Putin frequently replayed the gruesome footage of Gaddafi being captured in a drainage pipe, being beaten to death. The capture, trial, and execution of Saddam Hussein did not seem to affect Putin as much. He had flippantly told French President Nicolas Sarkozy that he would hang Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili just as “the Americans had hanged Saddam Hussein.” But the lesson Putin drew from Libya was different: Being a pariah had served Gaddafi best; only when he had opened up to the West had they come after him.

Though Syria has long disappeared from the headlines in the U.S. and around most of the world, Syrians are watching closely what is unfolding miles away, and many are expressing solidarity with Ukrainians as they wonder with trepidation how the outcome will affect them and Russia’s hold on their country.

Some will be rooting for Putin to be deposed by disgruntled oligarchs, but even if this were to be the ultimate outcome, they know the devastation that will first be wrought on Ukraine. More than most, perhaps, they understand how the impunity with which Russia was able to conduct the war in Syria, the first large-scale Russian military intervention outside the borders of the former Soviet Union, emboldened Putin. Unlike the West, he did not see Libya or Syria as faraway places with no strategic interests, but as part of a chessboard, one where every square—from the Middle East to Ukraine—mattered.

theatlantic

The Clowns own the Atlantic, this is the reality, the Russian cleptos noticed how, Gadaffbeatme... todeath was handled.



Yes, he had it coming, but did we really need to gloat like barbarians?
By SUZANNE MOORE FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
UPDATED: 03:46 EDT, 24 October 2011

some of these posters are emotionally invested in the Ukrainian military for some reason.

from what you read in this thread Russia has lost on all fronts and their military sucks on all levels.

at the same time Russia is still a threat to the surrounding NATO countries in the Balkans and Baltics.

Even though they are advancing in South Eastern Ukraine, they are losing because they aren't advancing fast enough haha. I really don't care who wins, just stop sending our money over there.

Brandon and the Deep State want a regime change in Russia.

I saw that. If anyone presents any facts related to Russia overcoming Ukraine in some way, you are labeled a commie supporter.

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I'm still waiting on Russia to demonstrate any proficiency in combat.

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You act like Russia controls 0% of Ukraine lol

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like North Korea until like 2014 where it started flirting with the idea.

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So who is going to buy all of these minerals & hydrocarbons from Russia? Production in Russia is going to decline so how are they going to develop untapped Ukrainian sources with few buyers?