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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:32 pm to StormyMcMan
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:32 pm to StormyMcMan
quote:"The truth is not in English". I'm sorry, these are turns of speech in the Russian language, I wanted to say that "proofs, unfortunately, are not in English", but this is a completely different meaning
Well what language is the "truth" in?
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:41 pm to Chromdome35
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Was the population of Mariupol not peaceful enough?
Listen, I registered here to ask questions to the Americans because I do not trust either our or the American media. I ask when I'm interested in living people.
Do you read anything besides SNN, FoxNews?
I can give you a bunch of links in Russian where you will read and listen from real eyewitnesses, how the Nazis from Kyiv "Azov" did not let civilians out. They didn’t let the Russian army go on the offensive.
Zaesh why now there is no assault on the plant, where militants from "Azov" have barricaded themselves along with civilians?
How does "Azov" shoot in the back or in the back of the head those who refuse to shoot and want to surrender and save their lives?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:51 pm to ruff fish
I, along with you, do not trust the American or Russian media. I also come here to listen to other people's opinions and discuss the news of the world. I consume news from across the world.
I don't know what Azov's motivations are, don't really care either way. My question still stands, were the citizens of Mariupol not peaceful enough and deserved to have their city reduced to a pile of rubble? Were the people and children who were killed in the Russian bombing of the theater not peaceful enough?
Also, there is an assault underway at the plant in spite of what your media is telling you.
quote:
Zaesh why now there is no assault on the plant, where militants from "Azov" have barricaded themselves along with civilians?
How does "Azov" shoot in the back or in the back of the head those who refuse to shoot and want to surrender and save their lives?
I don't know what Azov's motivations are, don't really care either way. My question still stands, were the citizens of Mariupol not peaceful enough and deserved to have their city reduced to a pile of rubble? Were the people and children who were killed in the Russian bombing of the theater not peaceful enough?
Also, there is an assault underway at the plant in spite of what your media is telling you.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:51 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
Was the population of Mariupol not peaceful enough?
Look at the population of Mariupol.
Azov did not release them.
Russian subtitles can be translated into English on the video.
Tells a commando who participated in the release of peaceful hostages.
LINK
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:53 pm to ruff fish
Dudes, it's midnight right now.
I'm going to sleep. If someone asks me a question I can answer tomorrow
I'm going to sleep. If someone asks me a question I can answer tomorrow
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:54 pm to ruff fish
Seriously...Thanks for the conversation
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:59 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
Seriously...Thanks for the conversation
And thank you.
I wanted to ask the Americans tomorrow about the constitutional amendment about weapons. In addition to the participants in this forum, I do not know who else to ask.
Will you answer?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:00 pm to ruff fish
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And thank you.
I wanted to ask the Americans tomorrow about the constitutional amendment about weapons. In addition to the participants in this forum, I do not know who else to ask.
Will you answer?
Sure, are you talking about the 2nd Amendment that gives us the right to gun ownership?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:01 pm to ruff fish
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China, India, all the countries of the former USSR and many others do not think so.
Maybe not outright called it such, but they are not showing much support for it either.
China says it's a war
quote:
Wang also acknowledged the conflict was a “war,” rather than a “special military operation” as described by Russia. Kuleba said Ukraine was willing to strengthen communication with China and that it looked forward to China’s “mediation for the realization of the ceasefire,” according to the statement.
India has called it a conflict
quote:
Dr. Jaishankar said that Russia is “a very important partner” but also held that India is against the conflict.
As for the rest
Armenia - Hasn't stated anything other than not recognizing DPR and LPR due to Russian army literally being in the country/"refused to accept customs duties from Russia in rubles. This decision, echoed by Armenia,"
Georgia- Georgia supported the 2 March UN General Assembly Resolution condemning the Russian attack, the suspension of Russia’s membership in the Council of Europe and the launch of the International Criminal Court’s probe into alleged war crimes in Ukraine. On 3 March, Georgia, along with Moldova, followed Ukraine’s lead in filing a formal application for EU membership.
Lithuania- The Ministers condemned in the strongest terms the brutal war that the Russian Federation,
Turkmenistan- Turkmenistan, upholding its long-standing principle of “permanent neutrality,” has avoided all public comment.
Azerbaijan- “… this is more than a crime – this is a mistake … The inevitable decline of the Putin era has begun … “ - Former Foreign Minister of Azerbaijan Tofig Zulfugarov
Kazakhstan (link used a few times)- the foreign ministry declared it will not recognize the independence of the so-called Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics. Domestic opinion toward the war is mixed—not surprising given heavy Russian media penetration. Yet Kazakhstan’s government has authorized or tolerated several anti-war protests, and it has expressed displeasure by allowing public discussion in the media of whether the country should remain a CSTO and an EAEU member
Moldova- Moldova has condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and barred Moldovans from sticking pro-Russia symbols on their cars.
Ukraine - Do I really need anything for this one?
Belarus - Ditto, I mean they helped spring board the invasion, but refuse to commit troops
Kyrgyzastan- Kyrgyzstan’s foreign minister also reiterated the country’s commitment to the principle of territorial integrity and called for the establishment of stable humanitarian corridors in Ukraine—both implicit criticisms of Moscow.
Uzebekistan- During a March 17 address to parliament, Uzbekistan’s long-serving foreign minister, Abdulaziz Komilov, declared that Uzbekistan would not recognize the Russian-controlled portions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and reiterated its commitment to Ukrainian territorial integrity.
All that just to say, there really isn't much international support for this "operation", even in former USSR countries.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:03 pm to ruff fish
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American (biased) media.
As compared to the heavy Russian censorship that has closed down all non-government news outlets?
And why are protesters against the war beaten and arrested? Even when just holding up a blank sheet of paper.
US protesters against the various wars are not arrested unless they violate some law unrelated to just being against a war. - Trespassing, blocking a street, throwing rocks, etc might very well win an arrest, but not the simple act of carrying an anti-war sign.
If Putin really thought truth was on his side his draconian methods against anti-war people would not be unnecessary.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:05 pm to ruff fish
quote:
"The truth is not in English". I'm sorry, these are turns of speech in the Russian language, I wanted to say that "proofs, unfortunately, are not in English", but this is a completely different meaning
Fair enough. The second way makes much more sense in English as to what your point is
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:40 pm to NoTSquirrely
![](https://i.ibb.co/YRbvbsG/Screenshot-2022-05-05-at-17-41-24-Glenn-Greenwald-ggreenwald-Twitter.png)
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 5:40 pm to Chromdome35
(Unsubstantiated at this point)
https://twitter.com/spook_info/status/1522341848794247169
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_frigate_Admiral_Makarov
I think this is the newest surface combatant in the Russian navy.
https://twitter.com/spook_info/status/1522341848794247169
quote:
There is currently an unsubstantiated rumor that the frigate "Admiral Makarov" was hit.
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Saint_Petersburg_Baltic_Fleet_Admiral_Makarov_05.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_frigate_Admiral_Makarov
I think this is the newest surface combatant in the Russian navy.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:05 pm to Chromdome35
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frigate "Admiral Makarov" was hit.
Time for the Russia to break out the world's greatest anti-smoking propaganda again.
![](https://i.imgur.com/4iOcGIL.jpg)
In case any of y'all don't read Russian the poster says "smoking kills more people than Obama."
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:12 pm to WeeWee
"Don't tell me you've lost another ship, Yury"
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:28 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:
ELINT News Retweeted
C Salonius-Pasternak
@charlyjsp
According to Finnish officials:
1) #Finland has received security assurances from US, UK, France, Germany…for duration NATO membership process.
2) After formal Finnish application, negotiations could be completed in two days. #turpo
LINK
Looks like Putin's chess moves to keep NATO from bordering Russia is one step closer to officially backfiring in Vlad's face.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:45 pm to WeeWee
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Looks like Putin's chess moves to keep NATO from bordering Russia is one step closer to officially backfiring in Vlad's face.
Good, he's nothing but a fricking bully. Hopefully the cancer gets him.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:59 pm to Chromdome35
Well, given the times that passed, I guess this is fake.
We have drone footage of basically everything including the last ship hit.
I've looked all over and nothing but the same twitter post over and over.
We have drone footage of basically everything including the last ship hit.
I've looked all over and nothing but the same twitter post over and over.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:10 pm to JayDeerTay84
Yea it's looking less likely by the minute. If we don't hear anything by mid day tomorrow it probably didn't happen.
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