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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

Posted on 3/22/22 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 5:50 pm to
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The Russian army is basically strangling the core Ukrainian army out east while besieging every major city except Lviv.


Mariupol is quite literally the only major city the Russians are besieging. Kiev and Kharkov aren’t surrounded.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 6:23 pm to
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Putin's two previous attacks on Georgia and Crimea where short and quick.


Georgia and Crimea combined have maybe a tenth of the land area of Ukraine.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 6:30 pm to
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Georgia and Crimea combined have maybe a tenth of the land area of Ukraine.


True. But it is less than 100 miles from the Belorussian border to Kiev. Take the capital city and that's the game. Here we are, one month later, and they still can't even penetrate past the suburbs.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 6:52 pm to
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Mariupol is quite literally the only major city the Russians are besieging. Kiev and Kharkov aren’t surrounded.


Still being besieged
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 6:53 pm to
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True. But it is less than 100 miles from the Belorussian border to Kiev. Take the capital city and that's the game. Here we are, one month later, and they still can't even penetrate past the suburbs.


Ukraine isn’t WW2 France lmfao
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 6:59 pm to
If the city isn’t surrounded then it isn’t besieged
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33804 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:07 pm to
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Do these party swaps occur organically? Regardless, it’s unnerving to observe.



Reading this on a day where Dems are emphatically embracing & running cover for a judge that gave out light sentencing to pedos is hysterical. A party that changes daily depending on which way the wind blows including fully supporting Neo-Nazis after crying that white supremacy was the greatest threat in the world for the past 5 years. fricking clowns!


Also...


Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:11 pm to
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If the city isn’t surrounded then it isn’t besieged


I have no idea is Key-ev is besieged or not.

But if a city is cutoff so that ingress or egress of goods is halted then it is besieged, surrounded or not.

Again, I have no idea is Key-ev is besieged or not.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:18 pm to
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Take the capital city and that's the game.


This isn't a board game.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33804 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:22 pm to
Mayor claims that he had someone shot.

quote:

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

some people are talking about the kramatorsk mayor saying that the fuel depot's location was leaked by a local (almost certainly untrue, the city is close to donetsk & there's RU drone footage) but no one is talking about him saying he had someone shot without trial for this


Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:38 pm to
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But if a city is cutoff so that ingress or egress of goods is halted then it is besieged, surrounded or not.
Yes

quote:

Again, I have no idea is Key-ev is besieged or not.
It isn’t
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:06 pm to
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If the city isn’t surrounded then it isn’t besieged


Partially and in the process of being under full siege….happy
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:30 pm to
No, it isn’t “partially” besieged it’s just straight up not besieged. The Russians may eventually succeed in encircling Kyiv but the offensive appears to have stalled out for now.

I haven’t seen any reports by either side that would suggest there’s any trouble supplying the city
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:15 pm to
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No, it isn’t “partially” besieged it’s just straight up not besieged. The Russians may eventually succeed in encircling Kyiv but the offensive appears to have stalled out for now. I haven’t seen any reports by either side that would suggest there’s any trouble supplying the city


Because CNN isn’t going to report anything other than Putin bad
Posted by Bryantboyz
Moscow
Member since Dec 2018
668 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:13 am to
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Here we are, one month later, and they still can't even penetrate past the suburbs.


The attacks have been surgical and specifically avoiding known areas where citizens are isolated except places where soldiers have mixed in. Some citizens have been denied the right to leave by Ukrainian militants.

Russia is using time as its ally as well to minimize its own losses. They will likely flood part of Kiev to render it uninhabitable and useless to the Ukrainian military.
Posted by Bryantboyz
Moscow
Member since Dec 2018
668 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:18 am to
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Reading this on a day where Dems are emphatically embracing & running cover for a judge that gave out light sentencing to pedos is hysterical. A party that changes daily depending on which way the wind blows including fully supporting Neo-Nazis after crying that white supremacy was the greatest threat in the world for the past 5 years.


By far the most relevant and salient replies/quotes in this entire thread!!

Well said OG Johnson
Posted by Bryantboyz
Moscow
Member since Dec 2018
668 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:24 am to
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Putin's two previous attacks on Georgia and Crimea where short and quick


There was no attack on Crimea...none. I've been to Crimea 7-8 times and it has always been extremely pro-Russian. Crimea didn't get one iota of support, economic or socially since 1991. It had eroded horribly.

Russia also couldn't allow the militants that murdered 48 pro-Russia supporters in Odessa and lead the Kiev maidan and the brutal murders on civilians in the Donbas region and Lugansk region to ever step foot in Crimea where the Russian navy is stationed.
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1338 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:45 am to
The Russians are in this till end of May. The only way to stop them is NATO attacking. That would start WWIII Thermo Nuclear War!
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33804 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:26 am to
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Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

Satellite images of flooding near the village of Kozarovichi, north of Kiev. At the beginning of the war, the Ukrainian Armed Forces blew up a dam on the Irpen River (to stop the Russian advance), which now causes water to approach residential buildings in Demidov.


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33804 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:35 am to
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