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re: The Nunes memo is Alarming for what it confirms
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:07 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:07 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Imagine being so brainwashed by the left wing echo chamber that you accept the Washington Post as gospel for political news in DC.
FIFY
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:09 pm to TBoy
I have a different take on the memo. Is that ok with the author.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:10 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Imagine being so brainwashed by the right wing echo chamber that you laugh off the Washington Post as a legitimate source for political news in DC.
Imagine being so accustomed to liberal biased “news” that you mistake an opinion piece for real news. Too bad you prog filth are too smug to get the irony.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:17 pm to TBoy
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How do you are any of your gang have any clue what evidence Meuller or the FBI or anyone else has?
Answer: You don't. You just say this as if it somehow true because you say it and repeat it.
Because it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out what is taking place. If they have such damning evidence then why wouldn't they have release hard evidence before the election to stop a "traitor" from being elected? I'll answer for you....they don't have anything.
The dossier was a setup by the DNC/Clintons/Obama administration to spy on Trump to gather dirt and info. but that didn't produce anything. Then, Trump got elected, something they didn't expect or plan for. So in a frantic act of desperation, they realized they had to cover their tracks and reverse engineer their scheme that failed because the very guy they were spying on will now have access to all of the evidence.
It's a strategy that you are blindly falling for but will backfire miserably. You will be extremely disappointed when everything is settled.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:21 pm to TBoy
Well according to republicans, McCabe testified if they hadn’t had the dossier, there would’ve been no warrant.
Democrats claim he didn’t say that.
Gues which party DOESNT want to release his transcript (or even JUST that portion) to the public?! Why, the DEMOCRATS of course! And we all know that if it in fact helped their narrative, Schiff would’ve leaked it in a heartbeat.
So as far as your “gotcha” with this article, come back when you can prove McCabe DIDNT testify to that. Bc if he did, (and he did) the shill who wrote this article wasted a lot of time to to write a load of bs for dumbasses like yourself to lap up.
Democrats claim he didn’t say that.
Gues which party DOESNT want to release his transcript (or even JUST that portion) to the public?! Why, the DEMOCRATS of course! And we all know that if it in fact helped their narrative, Schiff would’ve leaked it in a heartbeat.
So as far as your “gotcha” with this article, come back when you can prove McCabe DIDNT testify to that. Bc if he did, (and he did) the shill who wrote this article wasted a lot of time to to write a load of bs for dumbasses like yourself to lap up.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:29 pm to TBoy
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TBoy
I see the testosterone treatments have yet to show any significant results. I hope it gets better eventually.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:35 pm to CheniereTiger108
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Well according to republicans, McCabe testified if they hadn’t had the dossier, there would’ve been no warrant.
I mean, if he did say that, he was mistaken, seeing as Page had been the subject of FISA warrants going back as far as 2014. They had FISA warrants on the guy before the dossier even existed, before he joined the Trump campaign, and even before there was a Trump campaign to join.
Washington Examiner
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:40 pm to GuiceIsNice
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I mean, if he did say that, he was mistaken
Maybe you can help him out here eh?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:42 pm to TBoy
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Carter Page is likely a Russian spy.
I hope no one like you ever serves on a jury because you fundamentally pervert the most basic assumption of American jurisprudence. The FBI is the largest and most well-funded law enforcement agency in the world. They clandestinely surveilled and investigated Carter Page for years and couldn't find one crime in the monstrous wall of text that is the United States Code to even indict him for, much less convict. And yet you stand here and proclaim the man is a Russian spy, despite all evidence to the contrary, simply because you hate the President and want him impeached. Carter Page is likely the biggest victim in your entire scenario, and yet liberals perpetuate their slander of a man to help continue their narrative. It's sickening.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:45 pm to GuiceIsNice
Page’s fisa warrants had lapsed without him being charged with anything
Why did that happen?
Why did that happen?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:51 pm to GuiceIsNice
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he was mistaken
You mean perjury right? There is no “mistaken” when u testify under oath.
Or is that only if you’re a democrat or a crooked FBI agent workin for democrats??
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:25 pm to TBoy
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The memo documents and confirms that Carter Page is likely a Russian spy. Post Article on Memo
That’s probably 2-3 spies in Trumps camp at this point?
Manafort
Flynn
Carter
All spies
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:05 pm to TBoy
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TBoy
Son, you might possibly be the dumbest son of bitch to post on this board today.
You'd think after 4+ years they could charge him as a spy. Either he's a really good spy, the FBI is really incompetent or you're simply a low information, mouth breather that keeps media outlets like CNN in business.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:17 pm to TBoy
so you're citing the propaganda arm of the dnc?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:19 pm to TBoy
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The memo documents and confirms that Carter Page is likely a Russian spy.
Says the NeverTrumper posting a Fake News Washington Post link.
Got him this time!
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:21 pm to TBoy
I love this argument.
"Of course there is evidence of ______. Nobody is allowed to see it though because of ________". Rinse and repeat until next election cycle.
"Of course there is evidence of ______. Nobody is allowed to see it though because of ________". Rinse and repeat until next election cycle.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:43 pm to IllegalPete
My favorite arguments are “there’s nothing because I say so, because Hannity says so, etc,” and “there is nothing because if there was then they would have ....”.
Fact is, you don’t know. I don’t know. All we know is that there are investigations. We will just have to wait and see what they Find out. Conclusions are for later.
And no, you have no influence or control, regardless of how crass or insulting you are.
Fact is, you don’t know. I don’t know. All we know is that there are investigations. We will just have to wait and see what they Find out. Conclusions are for later.
And no, you have no influence or control, regardless of how crass or insulting you are.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:47 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Imagine being so brainwashed by the right wing echo chamber that you laugh off the Washington Post as a legitimate source for political news in DC.
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On Friday the Washington Post sparked a wave of fear when it ran the breathless headline “Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.”
Yet, it turns out this narrative was false and as the chronology below will show, illustrates how effectively false and misleading news can ricochet through the global news echo chamber through the pages of top tier newspapers that fail to properly verify their facts.
LINK
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The writers at the Washington Post are correct that lies spray out of Trump’s face with the force of an untethered fire hose. They’re also correct that almost every statement by Trump is either false or misleading. However, the irony is that almost every statement the Washington Post prints in correcting Trump’s lies is in itself a lie or misleading statement.
This one is written by someone that obviously does not like Trump.
LINK
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THE WASHINGTON POST on Thursday night promoted the claims of a new, shadowy organization that smears dozens of U.S. news sites that are critical of U.S. foreign policy as being “routine peddlers of Russian propaganda.” The article by reporter Craig Timberg — headlined “Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say” — cites a report by an anonymous website calling itself PropOrNot, which claims that millions of Americans have been deceived this year in a massive Russian “misinformation campaign.”
The group’s list of Russian disinformation outlets includes WikiLeaks and the Drudge Report, as well as Clinton-critical left-wing websites such as Truthout, Black Agenda Report, Truthdig, and Naked Capitalism, as well as libertarian venues such as Antiwar.com and the Ron Paul Institute.
Yet the article is rife with obviously reckless and unproven allegations, and fundamentally shaped by shoddy, slothful journalistic tactics. It was not surprising to learn that, as BuzzFeed’s Sheera Frenkel noted, “a lot of reporters passed on this story.” Its huge flaws are self-evident. But the Post gleefully ran with it and then promoted it aggressively, led by its Executive Editor Marty Baron:
If Buzzfeed won't even touch it, you know it has to be bad.
LINK
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After yesterday's piece reminded me of what a sleazy liar Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler is, my original goal this morning was to compile a list of every lie he and his dishonest minions have told over the years. Then I ran out of Internet. So the following list is far, far, far from comprehensive, but does still illustrate how The Washington Post and Kessler weaponize lies and phony fact-checks against their political enemies on the Right.
1. Carly Fiorina's First Job
2. Obama Snubs Israel
3. Hillary Joins the Marines
3. Ted Cruz, the Bible and the Tax Code
4. Obama Never Meant To Say 'You Didn't Build That'
5. Trump's Accurate ObamaCare Figures are a Lie
6. Hillary's Healthy!
7. Hillary Never Lied About Benghazi
8. Obama Doesn’t Want to Take Your Guns
9. How Dare a Trump Official Accurately Quote a Study
10. There Is No Proof of Widespread Vote Fraud In America, Y'all!
11. No American Muslims Celebrated 9/11
#5, #10, & #11 are especially impressive, because WaPo initially admitted they were true then turned around and called them lies.
LINK
There is much, much more that could be posted. Why should we believe the Washington Post, again?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:58 pm to GuiceIsNice
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I mean, if he did say that, he was mistaken, seeing as Page had been the subject of FISA warrants going back as far as 2014. They
I'm not sure you understand the law. If I am investigated in 2013 for a murder and they find out I had nothing to do with it, they can't use that fact in the future if a friend of mine is murdered in 2016.
"Well Mr. John Doe was investigated 3 years ago, judge, so we should be allowed a search warrant for this new murder."
It doesn't work that way. What Page was doing years ago should have no bearing at all in 2016.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:07 pm to AUstar
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I'm not sure you understand the law. If I am investigated in 2013 for a murder and they find out I had nothing to do with it, they can't use that fact in the future if a friend of mine is murdered in 2016.
"Well Mr. John Doe was investigated 3 years ago, judge, so we should be allowed a search warrant for this new murder."
It doesn't work that way. What Page was doing years ago should have no bearing at all in 2016.
You have no idea how this works . Page admitted to being an informant for Russian govt. Page will never be off our ICs radar. There is belief he could be trained for counter intelligence by Kremlin. Those types of cases takes years before you get any real leads sometimes. The IC did the right thing by monitoring that guy.
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