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re: The Number of People Over 40 Giving Birth Surpasses Teens for the First Time
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:25 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:25 pm to Taxing Authority
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I wonder how much that shift contributes to autism rates.
Depends on the nut quality.
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:27 pm to TDsngumbo
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I'm almost 40. I can't imagine having a newborn right now. I'm too damn tired to clean the fricking kitchen after dinner and get the kids to bed already. No way could I handle household duties, work, raising two growing kids, AND a newborn right now
I'm about to do it all over again at 38 and already have an 8 year old and a 6 year old.
I sure hope everything comes back to me because I was recently assembling baby items and installing carseats and felt like I had never done anything like it before.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:28 pm to 4cubbies
Because society has convinced women that they can have a career AND a family. They value education and career choices over family when they’re young. That’s why they’re all on birth control or get abortions in their 20’s and 30’s and then when the biological clock starts ticking they give up their careers for one last chance at having a family.
Not only does this cause a demographic crisis it fricks yo the workforce. If we were serious about fixing the problem, especially among white women, we’d outlaw abortion and birth control and stop admitting so many women into higher education.
Not only does this cause a demographic crisis it fricks yo the workforce. If we were serious about fixing the problem, especially among white women, we’d outlaw abortion and birth control and stop admitting so many women into higher education.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:28 pm to ArHog
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I wished I thought sarcasm was intended.
You commies can't take a fricking shite without the gubment being included.
We are facing under population problems in the future. Your daddy Trump is even looking into programs to increase the birth rate. Is Trump a commie?
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:34 pm to HeadCall
Even social acknowledgement of basic realities would be a good start
Men and women aren't the same
Most women who prioritize careers over family are going to be miserable at some point and unfulfilled
Most women who prioritize family over career are more likely to be content
It's in societal interest to have public policy that recognizes and encourages these realities, even if we also work to not directly impede the minority who don't fit these.
Instead, nearly all of our institutions are purposefully obtuse about this stuff. They tell women that careers and money will fulfill them foremost and that they're wired just like men in terms of ambition, and they want weaker men that are less and less capable of being the lone or dominant provider for their families.
Men and women aren't the same
Most women who prioritize careers over family are going to be miserable at some point and unfulfilled
Most women who prioritize family over career are more likely to be content
It's in societal interest to have public policy that recognizes and encourages these realities, even if we also work to not directly impede the minority who don't fit these.
Instead, nearly all of our institutions are purposefully obtuse about this stuff. They tell women that careers and money will fulfill them foremost and that they're wired just like men in terms of ambition, and they want weaker men that are less and less capable of being the lone or dominant provider for their families.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:38 pm to Pettifogger
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nstead, nearly all of our institutions are purposefully obtuse about this stuff. They tell women that careers and money will fulfill them foremost and that they're wired just like men in terms of ambition, and they want weaker men that are less and less capable of being the lone or dominant provider for their families.
Not only that, but a society has been created that nearly requires two incomes to raise a family for the majority of Americans. So women have to work. Women need to work, but shouldn't prioritize their careers? Women can't win.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:41 pm to John Casey
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I sure hope everything comes back to me because I was recently assembling baby items and installing carseats and felt like I had never done anything like it before.
I had a baby a month after I turned 39. When the baby got here, we had a 7 and 5 year old. Oldest has since turned 8 and 5 year old has a birthday in June.
It will come back! Even waking up multiple times a night to feed and change the baby doesn't seem so bad.
Congratulations! Watching our older 2 with the baby is the sweetest thing in the world. Enjoy the ride.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:46 pm to 4cubbies
You want to know about the rise in autism rates? That accounts for some of it. That’s a risk you take with high risk pregnancies.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:47 pm to 4cubbies
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Not only that, but a society has been created that nearly requires two incomes to raise a family for the majority of Americans. So women have to work. Women need to work, but shouldn't prioritize their careers? Women can't win.
It will get very circular between you and I on this, but I agree with this point.
Policy-wise, neither of us (or most men/women) have a lot of pull to help here. I do think women can initiate moves in the right direction by embracing traditional roles (even conceptually if not in practice) and encouraging other women to do the same.
I'm open to all sorts of criticisms of men and male-controlled institutions, but women are just awful to one another on this stuff and are digging the hole deeper in ways men can't/don't have anything to do with.
You're not REALLY for women if you don't support abortion, you're not a strong woman if you want to stay home, you're likewise a bad mom if you work, the environment requires us to work because things are so expensive now but also 90% of the social media I engage with is influencer/materialistic stuff focused on spending money on vapid things...
"I don't want to be left without a career and education when my husband abandons me and the kids" - That's valid, TBH, albeit not necessarily the contingency you want to plan a life around.
But the same woman will often spend most of her adult life voting against and advocating against traditional roles and institutions.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:47 pm to 4cubbies
Teens are so confused about what gender they are it is impossible for them to have sex.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:59 pm to Pettifogger
After having been married for the past 30 years, I am pleased to say that my wife has never had to work an outside job, so I can absolutely say the need for two incomes is not absolute, especially when you're having to turn around and pay the outrageous fees mentioned in this thread for childcare. Our kids were all homeschooled as well and are now in or graduated from college with good degrees and high ACT scores. I don't think having kids after 40 is ideal since you're more of a grandparent by then.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:03 pm to Cajun75
quote:Pregnancies and even fatherhood is probably not a good idea as you get older. It’s really a job for younger adults. It’s not guaranteed your kid will get autism, Down’s syndrome, etc. but understand the risks are definitely higher.
Several studies have shown that the risk of having a child with ASD is higher when the mother is older. For example, one study found that mothers over 40 had a 51% higher risk of having a child with autism compared to mothers aged 25-29
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:04 pm to 4cubbies
Imo, it's really sad for both age groups. The optimal time to have children is when a woman is in her 20's, and maybe into the 30's somewhat.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:08 pm to Cajun75
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After having been married for the past 30 years, I am pleased to say that my wife has never had to work an outside job, so I can absolutely say the need for two incomes is not absolute, especially when you're having to turn around and pay the outrageous fees mentioned in this thread for childcare. Our kids were all homeschooled as well and are now in or graduated from college with good degrees and high ACT scores. I don't think having kids after 40 is ideal since you're more of a grandparent by then
I agree it's not absolute. But I also think people like you and I (presumably traditionalists) will have to acknowledge a change in reality to make any headway on this.
I'm in the middle - I think my generation and our society is too materialistic (including me) and frivolous. But I also recognize that mailroom to boardroom (something my dad genuinely did) isn't much of a thing anymore. You can't work at a hardware store or have a milk route and raise a family in a good neighborhood in a nice if modest small town on one income (or you usually can't). That stuff doesn't exist. The jobs where you make middle class wages and get a pension for doing paperwork for 50 hours a week also don't exist much outside of government. Things are increasingly specialized, we're all at risk of replacement from technology, etc.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:08 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm open to all sorts of criticisms of men and male-controlled institutions, but women are just awful to one another on this stuff and are digging the hole deeper in ways men can't/don't have anything to do with.
Most of this happens on social media. I mostly stay off of FB, instagram and Twitter so I shield myself from those unhelpful exchanges. In actual real life, I find women to be very supportive of one another and nonjudgmental. This could be attributed to confirmation bias, but that's what I've noticed.
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I do think women can initiate moves in the right direction by embracing traditional roles (even conceptually if not in practice)
Women still do the lion's share of childrearing and maintaining a household. We honestly have no choice but "to embrace traditional roles" if we want our households to function. If you're married, you likely already know this.
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"I don't want to be left without a career and education when my husband abandons me and the kids" - That's valid, TBH, albeit not necessarily the contingency you want to plan a life around.
I don't think this crosses the mind of most women in functional marriages. This thought has never occurred to me. None of my friends have ever mentioned anything like this. I know this is a valid argument, I just don't think its pervasive.
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But the same woman will often spend most of her adult life voting against and advocating against traditional roles and institutions.
Neither party values women or children. Neither party actually gives a shite about anyone other than themselves.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:10 pm to 4cubbies
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I'll turn 40 this year I and had a baby 6 months ago.
Please don't brainwash the bambino with your leftist woke bullshite.
TIA
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:11 pm to KCT
bold of you to assume my offspring identifies as a "bambino"
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:12 pm to 4cubbies
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Neither party values women or children. Neither party actually gives a shite about anyone other than themselves.
I'm not going to disagree with you on motive or whether the "parties" are genuine in their platforms and platitudes.
But I will say that one party tends to recognize the realities regarding the sexes, and generally opposes abortion and generally (at least gives lip service to) the concept of the family.
While the other is currently controlled by a faction that sees those things as obstacles to its worldview.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:14 pm to TDsngumbo
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I'm almost 40. I can't imagine having a newborn right now. I'm too damn tired to clean the fricking kitchen after dinner and get the kids to bed already. No way could I handle household duties, work, raising two growing kids, AND a newborn right now.
You could do it.
The difference is you dont HAVE to do it.
For instance, look at all the blowhards that are having kids after 40. They are some of the biggest, dryest, flapping pussies of all time. They tried to play it safe and have kids late negating potential plans by God.
If you are telling me that some weak arse 40 year olds are stronger than people that went through the shite with less money and at a much younger age I'd call you a liar. haha
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:16 pm to Zach
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I worked with was 55 when his new wife demanded they have a baby. He consented but was not excited
What a great line.
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