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re: The Next Recession Will Destroy Millennials
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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and that perception is primed by all sorts of things
Like what? The first question out of a millenial's mouth being "how much vacation and sick time do I get"... It is not perception of value, it is actual value in most cases and that value is not having to put up with snotty nosed bullshite...
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:23 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Yep^
Millennials: Prior generations have failed to address structural entitlement issues that have created untenable government debt.
Also millennials: Feel the Bern!!!!!
Millennials: Boomer govt. failed us, it's all on the boomers and their govt.!
Millennials: Socialism will work this time! (more govt. and more taxation)
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:23 am to gthog61
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I make fun of millennials on here because it is fun but all the ones I know are sharp to very sharp.
The ones that I work with are all college educated and hard working for the most part. Now, I know some that are worthless.....
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Your premise seems to presuppose that millennials are somehow completely apart from these problems and otherwise ready to tackle them head on. Seems a bit spurious to me.
But to be clear, I think most of these generational type discussions are nonsensical on their face. I don’t think that’s how our public choices are really made at this point.
But to be clear, I think most of these generational type discussions are nonsensical on their face. I don’t think that’s how our public choices are really made at this point.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 8:25 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:23 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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You’re telling me $1000 a month in rent will crush economically a single millennial?
Living with his mom skews his perception.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:23 am to The Maj
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Like what? The first question out of a millenial's mouth being "how much vacation and sick time do I get"... It is not perception of value, it is actual value in most cases and that value is not having to put up with snotty nosed bullshite...
On the Money Board there was actually a millennial on there who was pissed because his relocation allowance wasn’t continued into his second year of employment and therefore his total compensation went down...
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:24 am to The Maj
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The first question out of a millenial's mouth being "how much vacation and sick time do I get"... It is not perception of value, it is actual value in most cases and that value is not having to put up with snotty nosed bullshite...
We are told that the workplace has to change because millenials value "flexibility" (want to work where and when they feel like it) over benefits like pensions. Don't get me wrong, I am anti-defined benefit pension, but corporations are starting to change the way they do business because they can't find people willing to work 40 hours a week.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 8:25 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:24 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
You mean it’s gonna be hard to live in expensive as frick coastal cities run by Democrats with a Lesbian Dance Studies degree?!?
SHOCKER!
SHOCKER!
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:24 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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This improves our society’s productivity and thusly it’s standard of living.
for the sake of argument i'll assume this blanket statement is true, that doesn't mean that millenials aren't the generation feeling the brunt of this major societal change. somebody has to feel the negative effects of this crunch and it is millenials
there is a major mass of frick on a course of destruction in this country and it is the boomers. once they all die off things will be able to reset somewhat. however, the generations who will have to deal with all the negative externatlities of this clogged artery are the young gen x, millenials, and older gen z.
for example, SS/Medicare. the system will not be able to handle the boomers clogging up the dole, but once that large mass dies we can afford SS/Medicare again. however, who will be funding this blight on our society for decades? the lost generation
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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for example, SS/Medicare. the system will not be able to handle the boomers clogging up the dole, but once that large mass dies we can afford SS/Medicare again. however, who will be funding this blight on our society for decades? the lost generation
I was born in 1979, and the first thing I was told when I entered the full time work force was not depend on social security for my retirement, because it wouldn't be there.
We all knew entitlements were a problem, but politicians, regardless of their generation, have been too gutless to fix it, and some of us (fellow citizens of mine) are too dependant to want it fixed.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 8:28 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:27 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Your premise seems to presuppose that millennials are somehow completely apart from these problems and otherwise ready to tackle them head on. Seems a bit spurious to me.
outside of some real outliers (like tech billionaires or AOC), it's pretty unfair to expect a group just getting political power and who should be getting economic power (But it's stunted for reasons discussed previously) to tackle anything
well, other than the Bernie types (which i also referenced earlier). hell, even the millenial Trump voters are largely doing it in a form of revolution/protest. all these people on here acting like this is a traditional conservative/liberal dichotomy are ignoring their God Emperor
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:29 am to NikolaiJakov
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workplace has to change
This might work for some fortune 500 company but it is not going to work for many of the employers out there...
Also, this is bullshite and one of the primary problems with millennials... If companies held their ground, they would not have to become flexible for their employees... Like I said, snot nosed problems when I can have a 50 to 60 year old that will put in 50 hours if I need him to... That is value to a company...
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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outside of some real outliers (like tech billionaires or AOC), it's pretty unfair to expect a group just getting political power and who should be getting economic power (But it's stunted for reasons discussed previously) to tackle anything
Thing is, I don’t anymore than I think we can pinpoint any other generation to specifically “blame” for any of it either. That’s all entirely too simplified.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:30 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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On the Money Board there was actually a millennial on there who was pissed because his relocation allowance wasn’t continued into his second year of employment and therefore his total compensation went down...
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:30 am to The Maj
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Like what?
social connections/friendship
in/out group dynamics
traditional bureaucratic structure they've lived in for 40+ years
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The first question out of a millenial's mouth being "how much vacation and sick time do I get"... It is not perception of value, it is actual value in most cases and that value is not having to put up with snotty nosed bullshite...
what you're ignoring is that even if we assume all of these entry level examples are true, it's still not what is being discussed
this is about the millenials who don't do that and who would be advancing in an economy of 15+ years ago (we can call this the traditional economy/structure post WW2 if you'd like). these participants are stuck with no real shot at advancement due to boomers clogging up the lanes (b/c they won't just fricking retire)
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:31 am to Saint Alfonzo
There are 500,000 more posted jobs than there are people currently looking for work in this country. Boomers still working because they have value and are filling a lot of those jobs.
Millennials are not making enough money because too few want to learn a trade or focus on a STEM derived career. Folks in those areas are thriving. We only need so many web designers, marketers, social workers, political scientists etc.
It isn’t that the millennials are not bright. It’s that too many went into debt to gain a degree in a field that isn’t going to be rewarding financially. You can lay responsibility for that at the feet of the federal government for taking control of student loans away from the private sector.
Millennials are not making enough money because too few want to learn a trade or focus on a STEM derived career. Folks in those areas are thriving. We only need so many web designers, marketers, social workers, political scientists etc.
It isn’t that the millennials are not bright. It’s that too many went into debt to gain a degree in a field that isn’t going to be rewarding financially. You can lay responsibility for that at the feet of the federal government for taking control of student loans away from the private sector.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:32 am to NikolaiJakov
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I was born in 1979, and the first thing I was told when I entered the full time work force was not depend on social security for my retirement, because it wouldn't be there.
you didn't even digest what i said.
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We all knew entitlements were a problem, but politicians, regardless of their generation,
says the person blaming the generation who has no political power
oh yeah, we will blame "millenials" but when we address the actual group responsible, we will ignore generation. that's fair
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:33 am to LSUBadger
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It isn’t that the millennials are not bright. It’s that too many went into debt to gain a degree in a field that isn’t going to be rewarding financially.
Nobody put a gun to their heads to get those degrees.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
this is about the millenials who don't do that and who would be advancing in an economy of 15+ years ago (we can call this the traditional economy/structure post WW2 if you'd like). these participants are stuck with no real shot at advancement due to boomers clogging up the lanes (b/c they won't just fricking retire)
So the experienced, productive, reliable employees who grew the business should just willingly give up financial incentive and their feeling of purpose and accomplishment so the next generation can slide into those positions and tear down what they spent their careers building?
Only communists want to dictate where and when people work, and America ain't communist.
So the experienced, productive, reliable employees who grew the business should just willingly give up financial incentive and their feeling of purpose and accomplishment so the next generation can slide into those positions and tear down what they spent their careers building?
Only communists want to dictate where and when people work, and America ain't communist.
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