- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: The New York Times, a former newspaper, makes an impassioned case against Free Speech
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:11 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:11 pm to Lsupimp
Weaponized speech? 
.
shite like this is why Trump won. Liberals are their own worst enemy. They love to play two games; the victim olympics and the Nuremberg anti-conservative trials.
. shite like this is why Trump won. Liberals are their own worst enemy. They love to play two games; the victim olympics and the Nuremberg anti-conservative trials.
0
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
“Because so many free-speech claims of the 1950s and 1960s involved anti-obscenity claims, or civil rights and anti-Vietnam War protests, it was easy for the left to sympathize with the speakers or believe that speech in general was harmless,” he said. “But the claim that speech was harmless or causally inert was never true, even if it has taken recent events to convince the left of that. The question, then, is why the left ever believed otherwise.”
well isn't that fricking convenient
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
"It was harmless before we decided it's no longer harmless!"
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:25 pm to TbirdSpur2010
it was harmless before we realized our political opponents were also entitled to these protections
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
As I always say , I may not agree with your harmless or casually inert speech but I will defend your right to harmless or casually inert speech to the death.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Justices Douglas and Black are turning in their graves. Two of the most liberal justices in Supreme Court history, who bravely argued that prior restraints on political speech were per se unconstitutional, would not recognize modern American liberalism.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:58 pm to SCLibertarian
they are literally making the argument for these rights
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
they are literally making the argument for these rights
Don't correct them.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:03 pm to Lsupimp
quote:I really wish the daily wire would let you pay for the shows individually. I have no use for Shapiro’s podcast but Andrew Klavan is great. He makes my day better. Hell, I like Michael Knowles show a lot as well.
The New York Times, a former newspaper,
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:05 pm to BackWoodsTiger
Guaranteed Klavan and Rush will be all over this on Monday.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:07 pm to BackWoodsTiger
I like that Shapiro, Klavan, and Knowles all have different tenors to their shows. All are very good.
I love Klavan's sense of humor, though. Half the time he cracks up at his own opening monologues
And the way both Shapiro and Klavan rag on Knowles constantly.
Good group.
I love Klavan's sense of humor, though. Half the time he cracks up at his own opening monologues
And the way both Shapiro and Klavan rag on Knowles constantly. Good group.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:07 pm to Lsupimp
In a democracy, the more speech the better.
How is this not understood?
How is this not understood?
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:09 pm to Lsupimp
There's a reason it's the FIRST amendment. It's absolutely the most important tenant of our society. If the 1st amendment goes you can call it a day, America is done, and that's not hyperbole.
The fact that everyone doesn't recognize this is alarming.
Abolishing the first amendment (directly or indirectly) would cause more of a civil war than abolishing the 2nd IMO.
The fact that everyone doesn't recognize this is alarming.
Abolishing the first amendment (directly or indirectly) would cause more of a civil war than abolishing the 2nd IMO.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:09 pm to Kriegschwein
quote:
In a democracy, the more speech the better.
How is this not understood?
because if we all have free speech, those with power have more (powerful?) speech
fairness is more important than universal rights
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:11 pm to rintintin
quote:
There's a reason it's the FIRST amendment. It's absolutely the most important tenant of our society. If the 1st amendment goes you can call it a day, America is done, and that's not hyperbole.
the journalist who wrote this piece would have a fricking meltdown if you told zher similar arguments re: the press
"larger outlets are wielding unfair power to report their corporatized media messages. we need to rethink the 1st Amendment to curb this"
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:12 pm to rintintin
Actually, imho, it’s the second most important. The single most important tenet of our society is the right to own private property. But I’m with ya man. Don’t mean to nitpick.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:15 pm to Lsupimp
quote:
The single most important tenet of our society is the right to own private property.
i've made this argument a few times on here
speech becomes much more symbolic after a while. property rights give you legit power and domain
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:18 pm to Lsupimp
quote:
What I have come to see is that it’s a mistake to think of free speech as an effective means to accomplish a more just society.”
To the contrary, free speech reinforces and amplifies injustice, Catharine A. MacKinnon, a law professor at the University of Michigan, wrote in “The Free Speech Century,” a collection of essays to be published this year.
I wonder if they like fries and a shake with that authoritarianism.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:20 pm to NYNolaguy1
Totalitarian tots, maybe ?
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:21 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
I wonder if they like fries and a shake with that authoritarianism.
it's only authoritarian/fascist if the Republicans do it, bruv. benevolent liberals would never abuse this power
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News