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The Never Bernie Apocalypse is Coming

Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:48 pm
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These Democrats are feeling Berned out.

Democratic donors and party insiders are warning that large swaths of their voters could stay home — or even defect to Trump — if Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders snags the nomination.

“I’ll still put a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker on my car, but a lot of people won’t,” said Jim Kessler, executive vice president for policy at Third Way, a Democratic think tank not aligned with any candidate. “They’ll say ‘I don’t like Donald Trump, but I don’t like Sanders either. We survived four years of Trump, maybe we’ll survive another four years.’ They’ll stay home, vote third party, or vote for Trump.”

An insider working with Mike Bloomberg’s campaign agreed: “I think that there is a very real ‘Never Bernie’ sentiment amongst both the donor class and moderate, centrist Democrats, or what I would call regular Democrats. Bloomberg and Pete [Buttigieg] and [Joe] Biden, who represent the heart and soul of the party — their supporters are not as apt to support someone like Bernie.”

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Among insiders there is near-universal belief that Sanders’ card carrying socialist credentials could create enormous problems with suburban and older voters — both of whom tend to be wealthier than the general population. While millennials are evenly split between socialism or capitalism, only 39 percent of Generation Xers and 32 percent of Baby Boomers held favorable views of “socialism,” according to a November 2019 Gallup poll.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46336 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:50 pm to
I can’t wait to see how this shakes out. Definitely a Dem civil war around the corner.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77181 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:51 pm to
The Democratic Convention should be AMAZING!!

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:56 pm to
These people are gift wrapping the election for Trump.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46336 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:56 pm to
Must see tv

Posted this I’m another thread but the biggest problem I see for them is that the hard left Bernie supporters (include AOC & squad supporters) will never fold back into the Dem party if Bernie isn’t the candidate. This is their full attack to take over the Dem party. What will they do if it fails?
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77181 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:57 pm to
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the hard left Bernie supporters (include AOC & squad supporters) will never fold back into the Dem party if Bernie isn’t the candidate.
They won’t.
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This is there full attack to take over the Dem party. What will they do if it fails?
No clue, but the Democratic Party is fractured big time.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:59 pm to


“Splitters!”
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:00 pm to
Bernie is going to win both Iowa and New Hampshire by wide margins, that's when the real panic starts.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30115 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:00 pm to
The cracks in the dem party have been there since the last election. Shared Trump hate has held the split from opening since then. But now they have to choose a candidate and all of the internal division is about to be put on full display.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166687 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:00 pm to
This just in...is this the plan?

Is Hillary Clinton angling to become vice president?

The article seems like it is serious and they would take millions more votes with her.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26832 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:01 pm to
Its their own fault. He’s an independent until it’s election time and then he’s a democrat. They should have told him to take a hike
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:01 pm to
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by Sid in Lakeshore
These people are gift wrapping the election for Trump.



Absolutely ^^^

So they have to get Bernie out as him being the democrat nominee hurts entire party for a generation potentially!

It will become the Socialist Party instead of Democrat Party
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:01 pm to
Who the frick is she bringing with her than most of these candidates aren’t?

A LOT of Dems hate her arse for blowing it in 2016.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:01 pm to
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I think that there is a very real ‘Never Bernie’ sentiment amongst both the donor class and moderate, centrist Democrats, or what I would call regular Democrats. Bloomberg and Pete [Buttigieg] and [Joe] Biden, who represent the heart and soul of the party — their supporters are not as apt to support someone like Bernie.”



How far has the Overton window shifted? Jesus, moderate now is free healthcare for all illegals, Medicare for all, poor border security, going after the second amendment, getting rid of the electoral college, supporting sanctuary cities, more government section 8 housing to “fix homelessness”, raising minimum wage at the federal level.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46336 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:02 pm to
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No clue, but the Democratic Party is fractured big time.

They are. The best thing for the Dem party going forward would be for the far left fringe to break off into their own party. Would allow the Dem party to reform an identity more true to their history and include those more center-left voters that have elected them in the past.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:03 pm to
The problem with that is that it means probably 2-3 cycles in the wilderness. Which they won’t want to accept.

They’ll follow the path toward known destruction to put off a potential long term fix.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166687 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:06 pm to
the article says she did a Hillary Hulu show on herself. She is not going away and VP would be perfect for her and she brings Bill's brilliance.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46336 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:09 pm to
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The problem with that is that it means probably 2-3 cycles in the wilderness. Which they won’t want to accept.

That’s what was said about the Republican Party before Trump. It only takes 1 dynamic candidate that pulls in people. Obama was that candidate. Trump was that candidate. And the true crazy left is smaller than the traditional base.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:09 pm to
Bill looks like he is one good blowjob away from a fatal heart attack.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7868 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:09 pm to
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