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re: The narrative about cities turning into shite holes

Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9388 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:04 pm to
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NYC has definitely gone down hill.




This is the best one yet. Time Square certainly way way nicer, and the Guardian Angels just wore red berets because they thought they were cool.

This is next-level misplaced nostalgia smh.





This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:11 pm to
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Burglary is legal?


Know what Chicago calls a carjacking?

A misdemeanor.
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Out of 1,127 arrests related to carjackings last year, 949 ended in charges of criminal trespassing to a vehicle, which is a misdemeanor. The other 178 resulted in charges for vehicular hijacking or armed vehicular hijacking.

LINK
Are you new to how the system works?

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Carjackings Plummet!! Police Have Success!! City is Safe!!

Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21037 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:15 pm to
Who are you trying to convince?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:27 pm to
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The idea that New Orleans is worse now than 30 years ago is contrary to all evidence. The huge project are gone and crime— especially murder—is way, way down. By no means am I saying everything is great but facts Trump nostalgia.
People hate facts.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30235 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:34 pm to
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This is the best one yet. Time Square certainly way way nicer, and the Guardian Angels just wore red berets because they thought they were cool.

This is next-level misplaced nostalgia smh.

What in the frick does NYC from 50 and 60 years ago have to do with today? From the '90s and 2000s until now, NYC has fallen off. An illegal immigrant fricked a corpse on a subway train, gtfoh. We just moved from the New York/New Jersey metro area, so you can kindly stfu, you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70559 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:36 pm to
Yes
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:38 pm to
It’s true and you won’t convince me otherwise. I travel a lot for work. The downtown core of every city I’ve been to is significantly worse than it was in the years leading up to the pandemic:

San Francisco
Atlanta
Chicago
Houston
Minneapolis - possibly the worst decline
Los Angeles
Dallas
Memphis
New Orleans
New York

All with way more “for lease” signs. The surviving restaurants often have shorter hours. The sketchy characters aren’t as outnumbered as they used to be. Fewer people are going to work in person and it shows.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted by West Seattle Dude
West Sesttle
Member since Aug 2023
521 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:54 pm to
Seattle is one of the safer big cities with a murder rate of about 4-7 per 100,000 most years. Irvine is the safest city of 300,00 plus with a murder rate of less than 1 per 100,000 most years. Irvine is majority Asian and about 2% Black. Demographics are destiny.

Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32243 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:01 pm to
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Some sad MF’s


The mirror never lies
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32243 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:04 pm to
I have been in all of these, save NY (frick that place) over the past few years. Compared to a decade ago, they are all the absolute definition of a shithole.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10602 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:06 pm to
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People hate facts.


There aren't any here regarding the bullshite that cities are better,.


Mobile sure as shite is not.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:14 pm to
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There aren't any here regarding the bullshite that cities are better,.


Mobile sure as shite is not.
Compared to which time period? Violent crime from 25 years ago was almost certainly significantly higher in Mobile than today.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:14 pm to
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save NY (frick that place)
Weird. NY is very nice.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:16 pm to
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It’s true and you won’t convince me otherwise. I travel a lot for work. The downtown core of every city I’ve been to is significantly worse than it was in the years leading up to the pandemic:

San Francisco
Atlanta
Chicago
Houston
Minneapolis - possibly the worst decline
Los Angeles
Dallas
Memphis
New Orleans
New York



What IS true for at least some of these downtown cores is that daily visitor count has not returned to pre-pandemic levels. I think in SF and Seattle, it's still like .4 of what it was. This implies that, despite crime being "at the same level" it was in 2019, you'd be 2.5X more likely to be actually victimized.
Posted by geauxtigahhhs
Member since Jun 2025
1110 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:16 pm to
Sooo you’re talking about cities in red states where the state politics won’t allow the cities to go to absolute complete shite due to radical leftism. Let’s talk about some blue cities in blue states. That’s where they’re absolute shitholes. And Knoxville & Macon as examples.. lmfao
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:19 pm to
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From the '90s and 2000s until now, NYC has fallen off.
By which metric? Almost all violent crime is way lower now than it was in those years. I mean WAY lower.

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An illegal immigrant fricked a corpse on a subway train, gtfoh.
Just because we have the internet and you know more about specific crimes now, don't kid yourself into thinking whack shite didn't always happen.

Perhaps you remember the token clerk burned to death at his work station in 1995?

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:21 pm to
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Seattle is one of the safer big cities with a murder rate of about 4-7 per 100,000 most years. Irvine is the safest city of 300,00 plus with a murder rate of less than 1 per 100,000 most years. Irvine is majority Asian and about 2% Black. Demographics are destiny.
The problem with Seattle isn't murder, it's other crimes. And like I said, the downtown core has way less foot traffic than it used to, thus one is MORE likely to be victimized than 5 years ago (by a lot).
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30235 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:26 pm to
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Just because we have the internet and you know more about specific crimes now, don't kid yourself into thinking whack shite didn't always happen.

Perhaps you remember the token clerk burned to death at his work station in 1995?

As a native New Yorker, I'm telling you and the other doofus that wants to play stupid numbers games, you're full of crap. NYC is a shittier place than it was 10-20 years ago. Fact, deal with it. ::
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 10:26 pm
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
7499 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:35 pm to
They aren't wrong... there's a reason cities like Atlanta, Birmingham, Memphis and Macon (bro, Macon is still sketchy af) are shitholes while cities like Huntsville and Knoxville are nice...



Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
2077 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:47 pm to
New Orleans. But it doesn’t matter if it’s

Baton Rouge
Atlanta
Chicago
LA
SF
NY
Houston

People didn’t used to shite on downtown sidewalks. Crime used to be in the hood 20-30 years ago because it was and is easy to police a downtown area. After defund/floyd/covid/biden nobody in their right mind wants to do that job anymore.

You might have to just use the hose and whip some arse for a little while to bring it back where it needs to go.
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