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re: The move of Jesus in and amongst Islam is truly a thing to behold these days
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:03 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:03 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
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Yes. On people who have been terrorizing the world for 1300 years and who deserve to be destroyed.
This is MSM brainwashing collectivism. Where you only see people in terms of groups rather than as individuals and you dehumanize them based on the actions of a few. Of which has been carefully crafted to justify your hate.
And so you kill innocent people because they belong to a group, and do not care for them. And then pretend you are not terrorizing them after causing millions of deaths and so forth.
Oh, and you steal the wealth of your neighbors to pay for it all.
You are a hypocrite and are on the path to hell.
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:37 pm to 3down10
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This is MSM brainwashing collectivism. Where you only see people in terms of groups rather than as individuals and you dehumanize them based on the actions of a few. Of which has been carefully crafted to justify your hate.
Moslems are not innocent. Where is the Moslem Salvation Army? Where is the Moslem United way? The Moslem culture is fundamentally belligerent and is a cancer on humanity. frick them, and frick their pedophile fake prophet.
PS: frick you, too.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:48 pm to FooManChoo
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It is pure faith.
Nope, I that’s not how I operate.
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You ignore all evidence to the contrary
Your presupposed fantasies are not evidence, Foo.
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truth
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deluding yourself
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camels did exist in the ME at that time
Sure they did, but they weren’t domesticated until around 1000BCE, after a thousand years after the scriptures would have had Abraham living.
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That’s exactly the sort of princely gift a Pharaoh might give an important guest.
“You tricked me into almost boinking your wife/half-sister… now here’s a shitload of treasure and livestock. Take it and go away.”
“And don’t try that shite again with anyone else.. it won’t work! And tell your son it definitely won’t work again either!”
Domesticated Camels Came to Israel in 930 B.C., Centuries Later Than Bible Says
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:49 pm to 3down10
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This is MSM brainwashing collectivism.
lol
Let me guess, the Ottoman Empire was just a big ‘misunderstanding’.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:04 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
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Moslems are not innocent. Where is the Moslem Salvation Army? Where is the Moslem United way? The Moslem culture is fundamentally belligerent and is a cancer on humanity. frick them, and frick their pedophile fake prophet.
PS: frick you, too.
They have programs like that. But I'm not sure what that is supposed to matter.
We are ruled by pedophiles now.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:07 pm to CFDoc
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lol
Let me guess, the Ottoman Empire was just a big ‘misunderstanding’.
Not sure what point you are trying to make? Was WW2 with Germany also a big misunderstanding? The British Empire? The current US empire?
I mean people being shitty to each other is nothing new, but you shouldn't hold the son accountable for the sins of the father.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:38 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:It's exactly how you operate. Your faith is in the absence of God. You even reject the overwhelming evidence for the existence of the historical Jesus because you don't even want Jesus to possibly be the Savior, so if He didn't actually exist, you don't have to face Him as your judge.
Nope, I that’s not how I operate.
quote:The truth is not a fantasy. You only think it's a fantasy because your presuppositions don't allow for it to be true. You have to rationalize it away because you simply cannot accept even the possibility of it being true.
Your presupposed fantasies are not evidence, Foo.
quote:The evidence doesn't point to camels not being domesticated prior to then in Israel, only that they weren't used in copper mining, which is the only thing that can be be said with some confidence, as the study was done by studying excavations of copper mine pits.
Sure they did, but they weren’t domesticated until around 1000BCE, after a thousand years after the scriptures would have had Abraham living
Domesticated Camels Came to Israel in 930 B.C., Centuries Later Than Bible Says.
The article you provided also says that there is evidence of camels existing prior to that time in the area, but as the article says, "The few camel bones found in earlier archaeological layers probably belonged to wild camels"
So the article doesn't preclude that camels were domesticated prior to 1000 BC, only that there hasn't been evidence that conclusively shows domestication prior to that (other than the Bible, of course), and as we know good and well, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. With that said, there is evidence of camels being there prior to 1000 BC, it's just unclear if they were domestic or wild (according to that study).
The study doesn't disprove the Bible at all. There is evidence of domestication in Mesopotamia (where Abraham came from) and surrounding areas earlier than 1000 BC, going back to about 3000 BC. There was about 200 years between Abraham acquiring camels from Egypt and his grandchild and great grand children moving to Egypt taking all of their wealth and animals with them. There is no mention in the Bible of camel breeding and trading, so if a small number of domesticated camels, gifted by Pharoah, were used for riding in a single nomadic family for about 200 years before going into Egypt (and removing them from Canaan), then it would make sense that evidence wouldn't be found. There are millions or even billions of animals that left no trace of their existence, and we're talking about potentially dozens or hundreds over about 200 years that were not used for copper mining to account for.
quote:Actually the narrative was that the gifts were given prior to finding out the nature of Abram's and Sarai's relationship. Regardless, your opinion of how silly you think something sounds doesn't determine its factuality. Abraham was preserved because of God's care, even in spite of his weakness.
“You tricked me into almost boinking your wife/half-sister… now here’s a shitload of treasure and livestock. Take it and go away.”
“And don’t try that shite again with anyone else.. it won’t work! And tell your son it definitely won’t work again either!”
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:48 pm to 3down10
quote:Muslims do not give you the option to "leave them alone." You're just not bright enough to realize it. Muslims don't even give other Muslims the option to ignore the conservatives
Leaving them alone also means not shipping millions of them into this country without assimilation
quote:This is so incredibly naive. Did Australians deserve to be attacked? Are they attacking Muslims all over the world?
stop attacking them around the world in support of Israel and maybe they'll have less reason to attack us at all
It's astonishing how stupid you are on this topic
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:04 pm to somethingdifferent
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Muslims do not give you the option to "leave them alone." You're just not bright enough to realize it. Muslims don't even give other Muslims the option to ignore the conservatives
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This is so incredibly naive. Did Australians deserve to be attacked? Are they attacking Muslims all over the world?
It's astonishing how stupid you are on this topic
That attack was against Jewish people driven by Israel and what they are doing in the middle east which is promoting antisemitism.
They are obviously shitty people, but they don't define all of them. Other Muslims condemned the attacks.
And Australia is also stupid for giving up their guns and allowing them to come into the country without assimilating. It's a worldwide problem and what needs to be questioned is who is making it happen, because it's not Muslims allowing them into these countries.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:33 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:It's like you live in another reality where Jews don't exist. Yes, there is. Ask any Jew genius
No, there isn’t
quote:Everything you just said is false. There is no archaeological evidence you are referring to. You can start with monotheism. The Jews were always monotheistic and always considered the pagans to be unclean. The Jews always endeavored to keep themselves separate from the pagans. I outlined the stupid theory you believe and how ignorant it is. When I have done so, you get extremely quiet about the details or what you do say is contradictory. If you're going to say that pagan idols have been found blah blah blah, why did the backsliding Jews eventually heed the message of the prophets?
There is an unbroken continuum of archaeological and genetic evidence that positively shows, without a doubt, that the Iron Age Israelites were the same people as the Bronze Age Canaanites who themselves descended from Stone Age people from the same area
The genetic evidence you mention merely shows that the peoples in question came from the same stock, which is of course explained in the Bible. When the Israelites returned during the Exodus/Conquest, they were essentially a "long-lost" branch of the same Levantine family tree returning to claim the land from their cousins.
quote:Doesn't exist
contradictions and anachronisms in the Bible around Abraham
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the mythical source shared with the Hindu Brahma
quote:Yes, all that crap you just said is made up. I've explained it multiple times now. Apparently you are too dense to step outside of the sandbox you are in
you can see it’s all made up
quote:So you can't prove it. That's all you had to say. It's just your opinion. It's also interesting that you don't want the burden of proof pointed at you
Rather than childish “prove it” retorts
quote:I have responded to every point you've made with critiques pointing out the flaws. You continue to suspiciously avoid providing details and just keep repeating the same already refuted points instead of dealing with the rebuttals.
I suggest you do your own research with an open mind
quote:It is not a fact in any sense of the word. It is an opinion. An ahistorial opinion
That’s a fact
quote:And they were called evil. Just like any pagans from before that time were called evil. It's almost like there's an unbroken chain of monotheism in the Bible and in the Jewish culture. Hmm. How about that.
All the rest worshipped many gods, as recorded in the Bible
quote:Ok hypocrite. I asked you how it is that the priests were able to brainwash everyone, leaving alleged evidence of polytheism that contemporaneous people couldn't detect but we can now see. It's absurd. You are insanely gullible
Read the Bible dude
quote:Already done and it's an argument from silence as I have told you multiple times before. Perhaps you don't know what that means
Do a little independent research on the figurines, shrines, altars, and temples in Israel and Judah that archaeologists have unearthed
quote:I have already refuted this point in detail. This is why it's clear you are emotionally attached to these ideas. You keep repeating the same already refuted points. You emotionally need for them to be true and you can't deal with alternative ideas and facts.
the Jewish temple in elephantine Egypt
quote:Ok hypocrite
Do your research instead of being an idiot
quote:So if those passages are polytheistic, why have Jews for thousands of years considered those passages to be monotheistic? You apparently don't know what the tyranny of the present means.
You must not have ever read Genesis 1, Genesis 6, Deuteronomy 32:8-9, psalm 82, and psalm 89 just to name a few
quote:Again, this is already refuted. You are being disingenuous
we know the Jerusalem temple allowed a polytheistic temple to be rebuilt and maintained and funded it in Elephantine
quote:Yet another assertion that has been refuted multiple times
archaeologists have unearthed figurines of Asherah the goddess in homes and shrines
Be honest, did a priest touch you in a sensitive area? Say that. I'll buy that. It would make sense why you're being so obtuse and gullible
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:39 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:When were the Israelites in Egypt? When exactly were camels domesticated?
Pharoah gave Abraham camels as loot a thousand years before camels were domesticated
There is debate on this topic amongst scholars so it's telling that you act like the skeptical position is the one that is most reliable when in scholarship, it's not. You are obviously emotional and biased on these issues
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:44 pm to 3down10
quote:None of this has anything to do with why jihadists want to kill infidels. That dynamic has been going on for hundreds of years before America was a country. Again, Muslims need NO HELP from the US govt to kill infidels and yes, you are an infidel. Hell, even some Muslims are considered infidels by some other Muslims
We have killed over 100k innocent civilians over the past 25 years, and I'm being very conservative since we were killing over 30k a year at one point in Iraq alone
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:53 pm to 3down10
quote:No, it's a brute fact. They are still at it here and abroad. Get your head out of the sand.
This is MSM brainwashing collectivism
quote:This is a false dichotomy. It is a fact that Muslim purists exist and will do anything to torture and kill infidels. That includes you
Where you only see people in terms of groups
quote:They have always been doing this to themselves. Do you know anything about sharia?
you dehumanize them
quote:Stating the fact of jihad is not "hate." And you are commenting on the effect, not the cause
justify your hate
quote:BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You should hear what jihadists do to "innocent" people. How about the poor Israeli girl at the festival that they broke her hips repeatedly raping her and she begged them to kill her so she could be put out of her misery. The people you are defending are animal savages and would gladly treat you the same way.
innocent people
quote:Again, you're addressing the effect, not the cause
pretend you are not terrorizing them after causing millions of deaths and so forth
What happened to you? How did you get so blinded, naive and ignorant?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:56 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Oh yes it is how you operate. You consistenly pick out the biblically skeptical position in debated topics. It's pure emotion
Nope, I that’s not how I operate
quote:No one knows this for a fact. It is possible that aristocrats had them as pets earlier than that date. But you knew that didn't you? You don't want to acknowledge that because it contradicts your emotional attachment to the biblically skeptical position
they weren’t domesticated until around 1000BCE
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:01 am to somethingdifferent
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None of this has anything to do with why jihadists want to kill infidels. That dynamic has been going on for hundreds of years before America was a country. Again, Muslims need NO HELP from the US govt to kill infidels and yes, you are an infidel. Hell, even some Muslims are considered infidels by some other Muslims
Same can be said of members from any religion. In the US the collectivist Christian democrats formed the KKK and would murder people who got in their away among other oppressive practices.
Am I to judge all Christians based on these actions? No, because I'm not an ignorant collectivist and I can actually blame the individuals guilty, not the entire group which would include millions of innocent people.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:02 am to 3down10
quote:You are missing the point. Australia is not attacking Muslims all over the world. In your thinking, the terrorists should have left those Australians alone, right? Be consistent. Your position is stupid
That attack was against Jewish people
quote:Like illegally crossing the border, attacking a music festival, brutally raping and killing people, taking others hostage, brutally raping and killing them. Oh wait
driven by Israel and what they are doing in the middle east
quote:You are missing the point. You keep defending the jihadists because there are some moderate, modern Muslims which is completely idiotic. You can acknowledge both and treat them accordingly.
hey don't define all of them
quote:I bet that made those poor Jews feel SO much better
Muslims condemned the attacks
quote:This is a boatload of sophistry to avoid the actual topic - MUSLIMS HATE YOU AND WANT TO KILL YOU. That is a brute fact and the more you argue against it, the stupider you look on this topic
And Australia is also stupid for giving up their guns and allowing them to come into the country without assimilating. It's a worldwide problem and what needs to be questioned is who is making it happen, because it's not Muslims allowing them into these countries
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:03 am to 3down10
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They have programs like that. But I'm not sure what that is supposed to matter. We are ruled by pedophiles now.
The frick they do. Where are all their direct mailings? Where are all their fun runs? Benefit concerts? To the extent that they exist, they are trivial and of no consequence, because moslems are not generous people. And on top of the pedophilia, they are also incestuous inbreds.
Now, please identify the pedophiles who rule us and provide the evidence.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:07 am to 3down10
quote:You're defending the Muslims by attacking others. So what are you saying, we should forgive the jihadists because of that one time the Theravedans and Mahayanas fought each other?
Same can be said of members from any religion. In the US the collectivist Christian democrats formed the KKK and would murder people who got in their away among other oppressive practices
quote:Why are you stuck on this? We can acknowledge both the peaceful Muslims and the jihadists.
Am I to judge all Christians based on these actions?
quote:Not relevant
collectivist
quote:We're actually getting somewhere. Now, let's talk about who those individuals are who are guilty and what we should do about it. The peaceful ones, we don't need to worry about them because they are, well, peaceful.
can actually blame the individuals guilty, not the entire group which would include millions of innocent people.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:11 am to 3down10
Let's bring some reality to this conversation
Juman Al Qawasmi shares her supernatural testimony of leaving Islam and finding faith and hope in Jesus Christ. Raised in Gaza with deep ties to Hamas, Juman says she was taught to hate Israel, curse Christians, and view Jews as enemies. She describes how, when Hamas took over Gaza in 2007, she witnessed shocking violence and intimidation, even against fellow Palestinians, used to consolidate power through fear.
Juman Al Qawasmi shares her supernatural testimony of leaving Islam and finding faith and hope in Jesus Christ. Raised in Gaza with deep ties to Hamas, Juman says she was taught to hate Israel, curse Christians, and view Jews as enemies. She describes how, when Hamas took over Gaza in 2007, she witnessed shocking violence and intimidation, even against fellow Palestinians, used to consolidate power through fear.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:11 am to somethingdifferent
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No, it's a brute fact. They are still at it here and abroad. Get your head out of the sand.
It's not a brute fact, it's collectivism. I can show you plenty of Muslims who don't believe in the crap. In fact there are probably millions more who would never attack other people, but you will paint them with the actions of a few to justify your evil.
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This is a false dichotomy. It is a fact that Muslim purists exist and will do anything to torture and kill infidels. That includes you
Shitty people exist in all religions and whatever. Again, you surely don't hold all Christians responsible for the actions of a few. Yet, in this case, it's all you see. Because of collectivism.
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They have always been doing this to themselves. Do you know anything about sharia?
They do not.
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Stating the fact of jihad is not "hate." And you are commenting on the effect, not the cause
Once again you see them all the same instead of as individuals, rather than pointing and holding the guilty accountable.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You should hear what jihadists do to "innocent" people. How about the poor Israeli girl at the festival that they broke her hips repeatedly raping her and she begged them to kill her so she could be put out of her misery. The people you are defending are animal savages and would gladly treat you the same way.
Once again painting them all based on the actions of a few. Not to mention you've allowed the worst of them to define your own standards.
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Again, you're addressing the effect, not the cause
What happened to you? How did you get so blinded, naive and ignorant?
God taught me. You are on the path to hell.
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