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re: The massive number of people who are unemployable

Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3974 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:58 pm to
Every able bodied man or woman should earn their keep. Work for SNAP and other subsidies. Have busses pick these people up at 7:00am and drop them off at 5:00. Keep them busy cleaning streets, picking up trash on the side of the road, pressure washing private businesses , municipal landscaping and other labor intensive work. They need to earn their keep like the rest of society.
Posted by whereishobson
Member since Dec 2012
398 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:03 pm to
The answer is castration.

If you are an able bodied adult that can not provide for yourself, you should not be able to procreate.
Posted by Translator
Member since May 2025
470 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:07 pm to
One of my closest friends has a multitude of serious health issues and still manages to keep working to support herself and her child. Someone like that, I could say okay there's an exception but she's working until she can't any longer. On the other hand there are far too many unemployed that don't want to work.
Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1164 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:24 pm to
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Do you know what motivates me to get out of bed at 5:30, drive in traffic, go work for 9.5 hours in a job I don’t really like and smile and say yes sir to assholes I could kick the shite out of. Hunger for myself and family because I know nobody else is going to take care of me and my family except me. Hunger is a terrific motivator. In fact, in 3 years when my youngest graduates college and goes off my payroll I’m going to retire.



i admire you. it sucks that you don’t like your job.

Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4653 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:33 pm to
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picking up trash on the side of the road,



If I ever find myself homeless, I'm going to start picking up trash around town. A few hours a day I will panhandle with the backdrop of all the bags of trash I picked.

Think how how much cleaner the streets would be if the homeless just spent one hour a day picking up trash.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1506 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:38 pm to
He’ll, half the people employed honestly shouldn’t be. I walk out of customer meetings every day and wonder how the hell some of those folks stay employed. And I’m not just talking about frontline or warehouse/production level employees. Talking about supervisors, managers, and even some owners.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8618 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:42 pm to
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It's why the Russians and Chinese think they can beat us in the long run.


The long run? Heck their kids already know more math, science and history than some college grads.

The guy on you tube who asks people basic questions shows how dumb we've gotten
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2752 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:42 pm to
Good news is that immigrants are self deporting because their gimme's were shut off. What a positive with the Government being closed. Now lets hope a plane doesn't collide of the tarmac.
Posted by BeefSupreme
Metairie
Member since Sep 2016
558 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 11:53 pm to
It is learned behavior.
Behavior can be modified.
I went through Army basic training in 1988 as a punk 17yo.
I retired as a Master Sergeant.
All that it takes is the will.
Fatigue tipping point will provide the frustration, enabling the will.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37604 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:24 am to
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People who game the system for benefits are typically not the same people who signed up to be in combat roles and thats just a fact.
I get that disability fraud is a problem in the military. But the idea that fixing it means ranking which jobs “deserve” injury compensation makes no sense.

What makes a “non-combat” soldier less legitimate when injured in the line of duty? If an 11B blows out his knee at Fort Benning, is that somehow more noble than an 88M hit by an IED in Mosul, or a 68W who caught a 7.62 pulling someone out of a Humvee? What exactly are you trying to grade here? The job title or the injury?

MPs, ADA, and other “non-combat” units were routinely used as door kickers and convoy security in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone outside the wire was fair game. Haji didn’t shoot at you harder based on your 201 file.

PFC Halling was an MP killed when his checkpoint was ambushed. SPC Maupin was a truck driver captured and executed after his fuel convoy was attacked outside Baghdad. SPC Clayton was a photographer taking photos who got vaporized by a mortar. None were "combat troops." All died doing their jobs.

If the goal’s fewer disability claims, maybe start by sending fewer kids to war zones instead of pretending their injury counts less if they don't have a blue cord.
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 1:35 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17163 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:41 am to
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I do not get it. The left is cool with mass abortion, canceling folks, wars, assassinations, etc. The right is cool with its share of things that frick people’s lives too.

MuH bOtH SiDeS
I dOn’T gEt It
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
2181 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:00 am to
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Plumbing would be tough to learn. But plenty other things could be worked out.


In any big city, the plumbers helper could make 20$ an hour just to fetch tools.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37604 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:35 am to
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Most of the DV plates I see, and they're everywhere in Tampa, are on luxury sedans and SUVs or platinum level trim trucks.
What do you think a DV tag actually means? It doesn’t mean “disabled” in the Social Security sense of being unable to work or function independently. A Disabled Veteran tag is based on VA disability compensation, which only measures service-connected injury or illness, not incapacity, or inability to work.

A lot of people mix this up. VA disability compensation is a non means-tested system. You can be 100 percent VA disabled and be a billionaire still working full-time. A high VA rating doesn’t even mean you’d qualify for Social Security disability. A vet rated at 70 percent for PTSD, for example, can still hold a job and collect VA comp at the same time.

The mix-up can be clarified by the words themselves: "VA compensation” versus “disability insurance.” VA compensation is just that. Compensation. Example: someone hits you with a car and breaks your legs. Their insurance company compensates you for those injuries. The fact that you were compensated for those injuries does not, by itself, deprive you from ever holding a job again.

Social Security Disability Insurance, on the other hand, is literally insurance. You [ideally ] pay into it through taxes, and it pays if you can’t work. One word describes restitution for harm, the other describes a safety net for incapacity. They serve different missions, and confusing them is how you end up with people thinking a DV tag means someone can’t work or is “on disability” in the Social Security sense. A DV tag just means the state confirmed a service-connected injury.
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 2:54 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52393 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:45 am to
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Why do we have so many people who can't support themselves and are on food stamps or other programs?

Because we subsidize it. Remove the welfare programs and, faced with starvation, they would get to work.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52393 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:55 am to
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How many people on disability are actually disabled? How many soldiers get coached to steal our money by faking issues?

What percentage of these unemployable people are actually unemployable?

I have two of these people in my family, a niece and a nephew (both on my wife’s side).
Niece - Beautiful young girl. Child of a divorced couple, both remarried and intent on spoiling her. Both families very wealthy. She goofed off in college(s) and got pregnant. She is now 35 with a 12 year old. She has used the child as an excuse to not work. She has never had a paycheck and refuses to consider working. Her dad is dead; her mom is single, a bank executive, and subsidizes her daughter. She is now dreadfully fat and utterly useless.

Nephew - About a 85 IQ if I had to guess. Has always had a desire to be an intellectual. Joined the navy at some point. He had slight back injury when he joined. The navy discouraged his continuance, so he got out and took disability for his pre-existing condition. The navy has paid him disability and all kinds of college tuition for him to bumble around in philosophy courses. I don’t think he has mastered anything beyond “I think therefore I am.” Also about 35. Utterly useless as anything besides a laborer, but he won’t labor.

Both of these people are prevented from working by a lack of necessity. One supported by her family and the other by you guys. Remove the support and they would get to work.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:45 am to
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people who are unemployable


There is not a massive number of people that are unemployable... There are a massive number of people hooked on government assistance that do not want to work... Big difference...

Cut off the benefits for good and you will find a vast majority will find a job or two...
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11689 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:14 am to
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We don’t need so much automation in trash/recycling sorting.



Automation eliminated a lot of jobs that require little to no thought and only physical activity. The answer is to figure out how to go backwards in order to move society forward, but not sure how you get the currently unemployable back into physical work. A hard day of work would also eliminate a lot of other bad activity plaguing America.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
9721 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:31 am to
A good bit of the inability of people to remain employed falls back to a school system that awards mediocrity with high marks and awards diplomas based upon "time served" in schools rather than an understanding of the curricula. Kids graduate without having ever been expected to produce anything in a standard academic setting, so what makes anyone think they will suddenly become adept at anything that requires more than minimal performance?
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