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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:10 am to
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:10 am to
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Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea
Do we see frequent, direct evidence of their terrorist activities threatening our way of life? No.

When NOKO acted up, Trump got them in line.

India is not a state sponsor of terrorism that I am aware of and they are loosely our allies

Israel is absolutely our ally in regards to fighting Islamic terrorism

Pakistan is worth keeping an eye on but it's not my understanding that they are funding Houtis or Hamas or Al Qaeda or the Taliban, etc. Maybe they are and if they are, then they are the enemy and to be fought elsewhere, not here

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Not one of those deaths were a result of those emboldened countries
Well by all means, let's relax and have a cup of coffee. All is well
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:10 am to
Nailed it
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:11 am to
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Can't remember where I heard that stupid shite before
You honestly think that's not true?

You can't be reasoned with because you are ignorant
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:11 am to
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Thanks for the insight, Senator Graham
SIGH.

Tell me what I said that's false.

NO ONE WILL ADDRESS THE FACTS
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170785 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:11 am to
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In my lifetime, not one single American serviceman has died to protect my right to "speak out against foreign conflict". Not one. Now plenty have died to improve the profit margins of defense contractors. Plenty have died for a stock market in the green. Plenty have died for a booming economy. Plenty have died for a better job market. Plenty have died for my investment portfolio. But in my lifetime,, none have died for my freedoms.


Same here

And the same could be said for people that are 20 years older than me
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:13 am to
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They see western freedom as the opposite of their cre
you said the thing!!!!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha



:rotfl:
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:13 am to
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Same here

And the same could be said for people that are 20 years older than me


The OP can relax. He's getting his war.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:14 am to
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They can't be "loved" into abandoning their desire for domination (whether through violence or other), they can only be fought
EXACTLY. And this is by their own choice. They have not been coerced into this. They aren't acting out because of prior US involvement in their region.

THEY HATE ANYONE WHO IS NOT MUSLIM.

Newsflash - THEY EVEN HATE "MODERATE" MUSLIMS

The skyscreamers itt don't even realize that the jihadists attack moderate muslims all the time
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:15 am to
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I’ve heard the opposite from people who I know that have traveled to Tehran. Most of the citizenry do not view America as their mortal enemy. It’s a minority, but powerful sect of theocratic radicals that get all the attention
This changes nothing
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am to
Opinions, sloganeering, and talking points are not facts.

You have to produce facts, to stand on facts.

You are parroting a Bush-era talking point, or your own opinion, and then saying "that's a fact"

But saying something is a fact, doesn't make it one.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am to
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What facts?
Are you capable of reading?

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Your silly neocon drivel about protecting our freedoms?
Nope. Care to try again genius?

Let me know when you're serious about dealing with the facts
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am to
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Whatever you think about Israel is irrelevant. This has nothing to do with warmongers or neocons or warhawks or Zionism or any of that nonsense


Alrighty.

Stopped reading right there.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94832 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:17 am to
Much of the American blood shed in Iraq was at the explicit behest of Iran, who supported the Shi'a militias directly and other anti-American fighters with material or intelligence at the very least.

Since the revolution, they have been a major exporter of terrorism and instability.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to
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Opinions, sloganeering, and talking points are not facts.

You have to produce facts, to stand on facts.

You are parroting a Bush-era talking point, or your own opinion, and then saying "that's a fact"

But saying something is a fact, doesn't make it one.


I read the OP. All of it. The guy makes a really strong argument for going ahead and invading China. He's a proactive interventionalist for sure.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:19 am
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to
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I have seen video

You have seen propaganda videos to drum up war support.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to
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You do realize that you're also describing Israel right?
Israelis are carrying out terrorist attacks on civilians for religious reasons? This is news to me

Perhaps you could list some Israeli suicide bombers who put on a bomb vest and blew up a bus stop full of civilians. Or the Israelis who invaded a village and massacred all the women and children who were attending church services
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to
You saved yourself a ton of Bush/Obama-level warmongering apologetics
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297945 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:19 am to
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I read the OP. All of it. The guy makes a really strong argument for going ahead and invading China.


We usually pick on shithole countries that are easy to topple
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:20 am to
They hate us for our freedom, bro

Totally bro

Like fah real

Murica!
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:21 am to
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We have to protect our way of life!
Said while typing from a free country that has a military designed to protect the right to make such statements

My gosh people can be so stupid sometimes

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Warmongers
Sigh. Addressed in the OP

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You know what will kill our way of life? Spending trillions and trillions more on 20 more years of war
Not necessarily true and you're conflating the justification for conflict with the execution of the conflict

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You folks really are as bad
How about learning how to read and deal with the facts in the OP before making yourself look more stupid
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