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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:10 am to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:10 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:Do we see frequent, direct evidence of their terrorist activities threatening our way of life? No.
Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea
When NOKO acted up, Trump got them in line.
India is not a state sponsor of terrorism that I am aware of and they are loosely our allies
Israel is absolutely our ally in regards to fighting Islamic terrorism
Pakistan is worth keeping an eye on but it's not my understanding that they are funding Houtis or Hamas or Al Qaeda or the Taliban, etc. Maybe they are and if they are, then they are the enemy and to be fought elsewhere, not here
quote:Well by all means, let's relax and have a cup of coffee. All is well
Not one of those deaths were a result of those emboldened countries
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:11 am to Powerman
quote:You honestly think that's not true?
Can't remember where I heard that stupid shite before
You can't be reasoned with because you are ignorant
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:11 am to SoWhat
quote:SIGH.
Thanks for the insight, Senator Graham
Tell me what I said that's false.
NO ONE WILL ADDRESS THE FACTS
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:11 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:
In my lifetime, not one single American serviceman has died to protect my right to "speak out against foreign conflict". Not one. Now plenty have died to improve the profit margins of defense contractors. Plenty have died for a stock market in the green. Plenty have died for a booming economy. Plenty have died for a better job market. Plenty have died for my investment portfolio. But in my lifetime,, none have died for my freedoms.
Same here
And the same could be said for people that are 20 years older than me
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:13 am to prplhze2000
quote:you said the thing!!!!
They see western freedom as the opposite of their cre
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
:rotfl:

Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:13 am to Powerman
quote:
Same here
And the same could be said for people that are 20 years older than me
The OP can relax. He's getting his war.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:14 am to Bard
quote:EXACTLY. And this is by their own choice. They have not been coerced into this. They aren't acting out because of prior US involvement in their region.
They can't be "loved" into abandoning their desire for domination (whether through violence or other), they can only be fought
THEY HATE ANYONE WHO IS NOT MUSLIM.
Newsflash - THEY EVEN HATE "MODERATE" MUSLIMS
The skyscreamers itt don't even realize that the jihadists attack moderate muslims all the time
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:15 am to Samso
quote:This changes nothing
I’ve heard the opposite from people who I know that have traveled to Tehran. Most of the citizenry do not view America as their mortal enemy. It’s a minority, but powerful sect of theocratic radicals that get all the attention
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am to somethingdifferent
Opinions, sloganeering, and talking points are not facts.
You have to produce facts, to stand on facts.
You are parroting a Bush-era talking point, or your own opinion, and then saying "that's a fact"
But saying something is a fact, doesn't make it one.
You have to produce facts, to stand on facts.
You are parroting a Bush-era talking point, or your own opinion, and then saying "that's a fact"
But saying something is a fact, doesn't make it one.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am to NIH
quote:Are you capable of reading?
What facts?
quote:Nope. Care to try again genius?
Your silly neocon drivel about protecting our freedoms?
Let me know when you're serious about dealing with the facts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
Whatever you think about Israel is irrelevant. This has nothing to do with warmongers or neocons or warhawks or Zionism or any of that nonsense
Alrighty.
Stopped reading right there.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:17 am to somethingdifferent
Much of the American blood shed in Iraq was at the explicit behest of Iran, who supported the Shi'a militias directly and other anti-American fighters with material or intelligence at the very least.
Since the revolution, they have been a major exporter of terrorism and instability.
Since the revolution, they have been a major exporter of terrorism and instability.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to Roaad
quote:
Opinions, sloganeering, and talking points are not facts.
You have to produce facts, to stand on facts.
You are parroting a Bush-era talking point, or your own opinion, and then saying "that's a fact"
But saying something is a fact, doesn't make it one.
I read the OP. All of it. The guy makes a really strong argument for going ahead and invading China. He's a proactive interventionalist for sure.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:19 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
I have seen video
You have seen propaganda videos to drum up war support.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to Powerman
quote:Israelis are carrying out terrorist attacks on civilians for religious reasons? This is news to me
You do realize that you're also describing Israel right?
Perhaps you could list some Israeli suicide bombers who put on a bomb vest and blew up a bus stop full of civilians. Or the Israelis who invaded a village and massacred all the women and children who were attending church services
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to LuckyTiger
You saved yourself a ton of Bush/Obama-level warmongering apologetics
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:19 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:
I read the OP. All of it. The guy makes a really strong argument for going ahead and invading China.
We usually pick on shithole countries that are easy to topple
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:20 am to Pandy Fackler
They hate us for our freedom, bro
Totally bro
Like fah real
Murica!
Totally bro
Like fah real
Murica!
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:21 am to wareaglepete
quote:Said while typing from a free country that has a military designed to protect the right to make such statements
We have to protect our way of life!
My gosh people can be so stupid sometimes
quote:Sigh. Addressed in the OP
Warmongers
quote:Not necessarily true and you're conflating the justification for conflict with the execution of the conflict
You know what will kill our way of life? Spending trillions and trillions more on 20 more years of war
quote:How about learning how to read and deal with the facts in the OP before making yourself look more stupid
You folks really are as bad
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