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re: The left keeps saying we cannot imprison our way out of crime.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:11 pm to RCDfan1950
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:11 pm to RCDfan1950
Gotta bring back three strikes and you are OUT! OK, add another strike if you want. And start a massive project to build more PRISONS! Most of these criminals CANNOT be rehabilitated, period!
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:26 pm to loogaroo
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Does that excuse it?
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Why would you even ask that? Obviously crimes of passion aren’t committed with consequences in mind.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:27 pm to loogaroo
Death penalty. It’s the only way.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:28 pm to FlySaint
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Rehabilitation is a libtard sham and has been a total failure everywhere tried.
This is patently false. What data informed your claim?
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:28 pm to The Eric
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Death penalty. It’s the only way.
I bet you profess to be pro-life, don’t you?
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:33 pm to 4cubbies
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I bet you profess to be pro-life, don’t you?
The Catholic church is not against the death penalty. Killing innocent helpless children on the other hand.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:36 pm to loogaroo
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The Catholic church is not against the death penalty.
The Catholic Church teaches that the death penalty is inadmissible.
lol at downvoting facts that hurt your feelings.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:39 pm to loogaroo
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The left keeps saying we cannot imprison our way out of crime.
How would they know, they’ve never tried it.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:47 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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How would they know, they’ve never tried it.
Check out Bill Clinton’s criminal justice reforms.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:50 pm to 4cubbies
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Check out Bill Clinton’s criminal justice reforms.
Slick would be “too far right” for today’s Left.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:52 am to 4cubbies
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The Catholic Church teaches that the death penalty is inadmissible.
Meh. That’s a relatively new revision. It’s not as cut and dry as you think if you read a little.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:32 am to loogaroo
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Meh. That’s a relatively new revision. It’s not as cut and dry as you think if you read a little.
Can you share your reasoning? Jesus preached turning the other cheek. The Church has always valued the sanctity of life from conception to natural death. I went to Catholic school from pre-K through 12th grade and have regularly attended mass my whole life. This has always been a pillar of the faith.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:46 am to 4cubbies
It was accepted until Pope John Paul II. He saw the horrors of the holocaust.
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John Paul II's views significantly influenced the Catholic Church's teachings on capital punishment. He described the death penalty as permissible in principle but effectively impermissible in reality, aligning with the Church's pro-life stance. His teachings laid the groundwork for later revisions in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which ultimately declared the death penalty "inadmissible" in 2018 under Pope Francis.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:56 am to loogaroo
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It was accepted until Pope John Paul II.
Was that documented in the Catechism? I was born while JP2 was Pope so I’ve never known the church to support or tolerate people killing each other.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:58 am to loogaroo
Well, that sounds like boomtimes for the domestic rope industry.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:00 am to loogaroo
It's a totally unsupported assertion. Proof would be simple. Just show us statistics on cities that have declared a specific crime to carry no prison term and then show us how the numbers of those crimes committed went down.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:03 am to loogaroo
The threat of incarceration doesn’t
deter many maladaptive perps for some reason, and it’s not practical or even possible to put every perp in every jurisdiction in jail.
deter many maladaptive perps for some reason, and it’s not practical or even possible to put every perp in every jurisdiction in jail.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:04 am to loogaroo
Dropping violent criminals off on an isolated island would do the trick
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:14 am to loogaroo
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Why not?
The ones saying that would be risking prison time for themselves.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:08 am to 4cubbies
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“In the catechism promoted by St. John Paul II, in 1992, the death penalty was allowed if it was ‘the only practicable way to defend the lives of human beings effectively against the aggressor.’ “
https://www.newwaysministry.org/2018/08/03/what-does-change-in-churchs-death-penalty-teaching-mean-for-lgbt-people/
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The Supreme Pontiff Francis, in the audience granted on 11 May 2018 to the undersigned Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, has approved the following new draft of no. 2267 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, arranging for it to be translated into various languages and inserted in all the editions of the aforementioned Catechism.
The death penalty
2267. Recourse to the death penalty on the part of legitimate authority, following a fair trial, was long considered an appropriate response to the gravity of certain crimes and an acceptable, albeit extreme, means of safeguarding the common good.
Today, however, there is an increasing awareness that the dignity of the person is not lost even after the commission of very serious crimes. In addition, a new understanding has emerged of the significance of penal sanctions imposed by the state. Lastly, more effective systems of detention have been developed, which ensure the due protection of citizens but, at the same time, do not definitively deprive the guilty of the possibility of redemption.
Consequently, the Church teaches, in the light of the Gospel, that “the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person”,[1] and she works with determination for its abolition worldwide.
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20180801_catechismo-penadimorte_en.html
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