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re: The Kansas voting totals just don’t add up

Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:38 am to
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
772 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:38 am to
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Am I really supposed to believe that somehow roughly 180,000 or so people only showed up to vote on one thing?


As a Kansan, unfortunately yes. We had the biggest crowd I've ever seen at my precinct yesterday. Still the wording was confusing..i had pro life friends tell me they voted no when a yes vote would have opened the doors for abortion restrictions. Our Supreme court is ate up with lefty judges not to mention a dem governor and this was a way of bypassing any challenges that might come from just the legislature passing a law. It would have changed our constitution.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2508 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:40 am to
It’s always those damn voting machines. Not sure how Republicans ever win a race.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3560 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Am I really supposed to believe that somehow roughly 180,000 or so people only showed up to vote on one thing?


Almost as if it's a really big fricking issue.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:42 am to
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Am I really supposed to believe that somehow roughly 180,000 or so people only showed up to vote on one thing? Yeah right. Dominion strikes again.



Yeah, that's not what those numbers indicate. At all.

Have you never voted in a primary before?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:44 am to
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Yeah, that's not what those numbers indicate. At all.


It kinda does indicate that. It’s not really that surprising either.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:46 am to
quote:

It kinda does indicate that.


OK.

Explain how "Dominion strikes again."

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:50 am to
That’s not what you quoted. I disagree that it’s dominion.

It does demonstrate that a bunch of people showed up to vote for one issue.

Edit: I misread your post. It is what you quoted.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:53 am to
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Edit: I misread your post. It is what you quoted.


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56385 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:55 am to
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I'm not sure but they do have separate ballots for D, R and non registered. They did not ask me what ballot I wanted when i went to vote. They just handed me an R ballot. I assume this means you have to be registered for a party beforehand to get those ballots.



But, you see why the vote totals not adding up would make some sense, right?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:57 am to
The initial suggestion by the data would be that the most likely explanation is that around 20% of the voters showed up to vote for only the abortion issue.
Posted by PhillipJFry
Member since Sep 2016
964 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:02 am to
From Kansas originally and find this hard to believe.

The moment you cross the Nebraska/Kansas state line I saw hundreds of signs saying to vote yes. I never once saw the opposite.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 10:04 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56385 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:04 am to
quote:

The initial suggestion by the data would be that the most likely explanation is that around 20% of the voters showed up to vote for only the abortion issue.



Which makes some sense if Independents cannot (or can choose not to) vote in a primary for a candidate. Right?

If this were a general election, you'd expect the totals to be much, much closer.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50308 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:04 am to
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so yes, the unaffiliated showed up and stopped R legislators from changing the constitution.



I know you want this to be true, but it simply isn't. Your inability to admit that the measure was worded poorly betrays you for the hack that you are.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21171 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Am I really supposed to believe that somehow roughly 180,000 or so people only showed up to vote on one thing?


Actually happens very often.

The highest profile race or ballot issue will always have more people casting a vote than races or issues on the rest of the ballot.

Has happened throughout the course of our country’s history.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 10:05 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:05 am to
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Which makes some sense if Independents cannot (or can choose not to) vote in a primary for a candidate. Right?


And that is the case in Kansas. You either are declared as a party, declare on the day of the election or you get to vote on issues only and not party candidates.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:06 am to
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The moment you cross the Nebraska/Kansas state line I saw hundreds of signs saying to vote yes. I never once saw the opposite.


I’m sure the JoCo soccer moms voted for abortion at an 80% clip.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:08 am to
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Do you have to be a registered party member to vote in a party's primary? Could be they had unaffiliated people who could only vote for statewide ballot issues and couldn't vote in the D or R primaries. That wouldn't be the case in Alabama, but I don't know how Kansas works so I'm just throwing it out there.
Yes, the unaffiliated were able to vote on the statewide issues in Kansas.

180,000 of them? Apparently.


dominion … dominion … dominion.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:12 am to
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Actually happens very often.


It doesn’t happen “very often.” And 25% and 35% deltas between a ballot initiative and statewide positions would not at all be “very often.”

I don’t believe it’s fraud. But it’s not accurate to say this “happens all the time.”
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:13 am to
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Have you never voted in a primary before?
This is probably unfair. Primaries are run differently in every state, and I candidly have never heard of a state that votes on statewide ballot initiatives in the primaries rather than the general election. If I had not "read-up" on Kansas procedure, I would probably be confused as well because this setup is the complete opposite of my state in almost every way.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101312 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:14 am to
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Is the whole state voting for senators?



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