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re: The H1B issue is at the core of MAGA

Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:21 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:21 am to
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the panican




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I don’t think people are interpreting Trump’s point correctly.

Holy fricking shite dude.

It's not 2017.

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Lastly, if you think Stephen Miller isn’t on top of this

Stephen Miller is the reason why Trump admin vol. 2 has been a fricking disaster.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:22 am to
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MAGA is essentially dead. It's boomers and neocons - dinosaurs on cable news.


Winnie, mate, you tried to get me to join that for years bro.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:22 am to
Hundreds of thousands of American tech workers have been laid off. You’re peddling bullshite if you think we “need” these workers.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:23 am to
Trump is catering to his donor class and throwing red meat to people who still watch Hannity and think Israel is a winning issue
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:23 am to
I was late to AF compared to golden nugget and NIH

But Im here now
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:23 am to
Trump admin messed up bigly with the Hyundai raid. Trump has tried to distance himself from it. No accountability.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:24 am to
Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity have convinced them otherwise.
Posted by Turnblad85
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:27 am to
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Importing infinite indians make line go up therefore importing infinite indians good




found rogertheshrubbers alter
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:27 am to
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I have started describing this as the "America First" cohort in opposition to the "MAGA" cohort are just Trump fanboys and neocons.
which line of theory you think has the best shot against your progressive Democrats?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:28 am to
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Stephen Miller is the reason why Trump admin vol. 2 has been a fricking disaster.


Trumps "Braintrust" destroyed any hint of MAGA.

Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:29 am to
At least we have Shough, mate
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:30 am to
bookmarking this thread to jump into later and provide some experiences I’ve had/seen around H1B’s, but at first glance I agree with NIH and SFP’s take on the topic. goldennugget has been beating this drum for months.

It’s a problem, it’s a problem that shouldn’t be downplayed and one that will cause a rift in the MAGA contingency. H1B’s have to be haulted and drastically cut back immediately. I want to see this administration reverse course on its recent stance.


To me personally, this is as an important, if not more important issue, than the deportation of illegal immigrants effort.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:37 am
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:31 am to
Why does this seem to only be associated with Indians. Are Europeans or Asians not eligible for H1B ?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:32 am to
Corporations are targeting cheaper areas, so no. Maybe China.
Posted by geauxEdO
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:35 am to
clearly people still can’t understand Trump and his intentions so not sure what your point is. the amount of unnecessary panic over tweets and interviews is still strong on the right.

and if you don’t like Stephen Miller, then you don’t like America First. can’t help you there bud.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:36 am to
The workers have to want to come here. That's always the problem with Euros.

The educated class doesn't, for obvious reasons, and the lower class is the Eastern Euros who caused UK to do Brexit. The same thing would happen here.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:37 am to
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Either this is an economic zone that is a place where people from across the world can come to get benefits (H1B jobs, welfare, college) at the detriment of our job market, healthcare systems, housing market, and general infrastructure or this is a nation with traditions, cultural norms, and institutions worth preserving and putting support behind.
What is the scale of this? What are the actual numbers?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:37 am to
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clearly people still can’t understand Trump and his intentions

You mean we're not predicting what his pivot will be?
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and if you don’t like Stephen Miller, then you don’t like America First

As a policy implementer he's bad at his job.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:38 am to
Translation “Don’t listen to his words, you just don’t get it.”

While in the same breath it’s “He uses social media to bypass the MSM and speak directly to the people!”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:39 am to
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and if you don’t like Stephen Miller, then you don’t like America First. can’t help you there bud.



America first doesnt exist. Youre being astroturfed.
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