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re: The Globalists want war with Russia.

Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
82860 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:22 pm to
Obama didn't stand up to Russia's land grab so WTF do people act like the left has the moral high ground to preemptively be hard on Trump?

It's fricking nonsense
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:24 pm to
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OK, I think I know where the OP is coming from. The idea is that the world conflict is now between the Nationalists and the Globalists.
Putin is a nationalist. Maybe the head honcho of all nationalists. UK and France leaving the EU would be nationalist

The US under Obama (and Hillary) is globalist along with Angela Merkel.

But Trump has taken over the globalist US and is moving it to nationalism making him superior to Putin on the nationalist hierarchy. So, if the globalists can make a war between the US and Russia it will destroy the nationalist movement and the globalists will take over.




You are on to something
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:24 pm to
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Russia is a natural ally of ours. We should help them be welcomed into the global community and work to isolate the Muslim regions.

Russia is a failing, demographically moribund petrostate with weak democratic institutions, a shaky commitment to individual liberty, and a sawed-off tyrant hellbent on expending what resources he can muster trying to play a game of Soviet revival.

Why are we natural allies again? Their societal markers (life expectancy, infant mortality, per capita GDP, etc are pretty second-world.
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:24 pm to
Shocked to see so many white people wanting war with Russia. The two World Wars were bad, but war with Russia would be Caucasoid extinction in a flash.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
82860 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:26 pm to
Oh frick off - you'll turn around and sing the praises of "emerging markets" in your next post but you hypocritically slag off Russia for political reasons
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:29 pm to
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Russia is a failing, demographically moribund petrostate with weak democratic institutions, a shaky commitment to individual liberty, and a sawed-off tyrant hellbent on expending what resources he can muster trying to play a game of Soviet revival.


The USSR was nominal at the time Putin was serving in the KGB.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:30 pm to
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Oh frick off - you'll turn around and sing the praises of "emerging markets" in your next post but you hypocritically slag off Russia for political reasons


Russia isn't an emerging market. It had that opportunity. It's a cleptocrartic petrostate.

Rug-stealing buffoon.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262895 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:31 pm to
Nuclear war with Russia. Hundreds of millions of white people killed across North. America and Europe, leftists profit.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:31 pm to
Lol true. It'd be a battle royale between every nation not involved to scavenge and acquire the tech after the dust settles too though. If they don't wipe each other out in that process better hope it's not a country with a sinister agenda that wins the day. They'll just rain hell on the rest of the world too
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17086 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:32 pm to
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Because they are obsessed with power and the idea of a one world government.


Bingo. And they see unpredictable Putin as a roadblock.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:33 pm to
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This is frightening shite.


No. This is hilarious shite, because you actually believe it... especially because you don't realize that these are just bullshite storylines produced by Russian media.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91149 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:33 pm to
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MARXIST label is thrown around a lot here; yet, when we actually have somebody that fits that label, in one of the worst ways possible, he's given a pass on here.


Putin isn't a Marxist. Not in the sense that Stalin or Lenin was. He is an oligarch, only worried about the rich and powerful behind him. He doesn't give 2 shits about the Russian people.

He isn't part of the globalist elite or new world order either. More of an old school nationalist authoritarian with his own agenda for power.

That's why the globalist elite want war with Russia. They love to dismantle any regime not in line with their goals.

Enter Trump: I think his plan is not to appease Putin, but rather use him as a tool to accomplish a common goal, which is destroy the globalist elite. Because if the US and Russia have strong ties they can dismantle globalism altogether. Europe has no military and China alone couldn't defeat the US and Russia. It's why trump rails against China. If we destroy their economy with trade barriers and us and Russia get control of the Middle East then the worlds energy supply belongs to us.

It would make the rest of the world our bitch
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:34 pm to
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Rug-stealing buffoon.


Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40796 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:35 pm to
They really do. But why are they making it so obvious?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:36 pm to
They make money off it and somebody else dies and the fact that the dead are more patriotic than average is gravy. What's left afterwards is a lot more malleable
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:37 pm to
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you'll turn around and sing the praises of "emerging markets" in your next post but you hypocritically slag off Russia for political reasons



You guys dont get it, Russia is dying, there isnt going to be an emerging market. Why you morons want to ally with a dying, dangerous country led by murderers and criminals is beyond stupid.

China has a long term economy, China has a future, Russia does not.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:38 pm to
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Why?


Wall Street profits.

Support Israel.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:40 pm to
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Nuclear war with Russia. Hundreds of millions of white people killed across North. America and Europe, leftists profit.
Explain. Most leftist wealth, like all wealth, is tied up in property and interests in, you guesed it, North America and Europe. Not to mention those hundreds of millions of whites (presumably other colors in the west are immune to the nuclear fireball, the radioactive fallout, and the ensuing post-war privation) are multi-trillion dollar per year producers and consumers. So assuming these leftists who have the brains to orchestrate the apocalypse are rational, what good would a nuclear war do them? Would all of their shite magically be spared?

Come on with these theories.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48670 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:43 pm to
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Nobody wants war with Russia. We just don't want that Russian dick-sucking Trump and his Russian-loving buddies to kowtow to them, and give the Russians carte blanche to do Putin's bullying will. If Trump stands up to Russia over Russia's land-grab in Ukraine or Putin's eventual attempted hegemony over the Baltic countries (which is coming, make no mistake about it), a lot of people will be very surprised. After Putin did so much to help get Trump elected, Trump owes him big-time. So what really worries a lot of people is what is Trump going to give away to pay his debt to Putin?


Are you writing a novel? That's a good start.

Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7524 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:43 pm to


Anybody trying to start a war with Russia is nuts and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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