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re: The Economic Breakdown of Rural vs Urban America

Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:29 am to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:29 am to
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Capitalism is the best economic system ever devised by humans. Everything you hold dear is thanks to capitalism.





rah rah.

Now explain robots and farm equipment taking jobs from humans while our population explodes.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:32 am to
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Which was done away with while the birth rate CONTINUES to decline. If the mandate was what controlled the birth rate, when it was reversed the birth rate should have returned. But it didn’t



Um. You don't suppose there were actual social impacts of the one child policy do you? I mean, people tend to grow up and mimic what they grew up in. The birth rate may well improve...........but it wasn't going to just snap back.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:32 am to
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Now explain robots and farm equipment taking jobs from humans while our population explodes.



This shite is why can't have nice things.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:33 am to
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Now explain robots and farm equipment taking jobs from humans while our population explodes.


Our population growth is dropping. Our population will probably start to shrink in 40 years. Hence the push by industrialists and people like Soros for open borders

Robots and equipment are a godsend to humanity, not an anchor.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:34 am to
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Now explain robots and farm equipment taking jobs from humans while our population explodes.


What about it? Are you calling for us to stop innovation and forward progress?

Are you calling for a mass extermination?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:34 am to
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Robots and equipment are a godsend to humanity, not an anchor.

It is mind boggling how many on the left don't comprehend this
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53535 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:35 am to
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Now explain robots and farm equipment taking jobs from humans while our population explodes.

Farm equipment is a new invention? What percentage of the population works in farming, .002%?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:35 am to
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What about it? Are you calling for us to stop innovation and forward progress?

The hilarious part is that the moron thinks that it causes a net loss in jobs/good jobs
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:36 am to
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t is mind boggling how many on the left don't comprehend this


Yeah, almost as mind-boggling as you pulling things out your arse.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:36 am to
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Yeah, almost as mind-boggling as you pulling things out your arse.

Poor Jorts still pissy
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:37 am to
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Poor Jorts still pissy


Nah. Just amused at how you duck out when you’ve been backed into a corner.

It’s what you do ShortyFraud.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 10:38 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:38 am to
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Nah. Just amused at how you duck out when you’ve been backed into a corner.



Says the guy who never backed his own assertion...........as for ducking out...........believe it or not, posting on TD isn't my profession.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:40 am to
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Says the guy who never backed his own assertion...........as for ducking out...........believe it or not, posting on TD isn't my profession.


Dude. Go read the thread. You kicked it off with a vague reference to a survey that doesn’t support your assertion. There is no study that looked at rate as you defined it. It’s laughable really. Prove me wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:40 am to
Automation and technology will lead to an increase in rural wealth as it frees up people to work remotely. That's our future
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:41 am to
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People move to where the jobs are located. Professional jobs pay more than agricultural or service jobs 





We both agree on that.

The issue is the side effects of that migration. More people leave rural for urban. Most red states happen to have more Rural dominated areas, thus they control state level politics.

That's one of the reasons red states are less wealthy, because a large amount of their workforce leaves.

The "uneducated" is a term I dont like to use since I have no clear indication of it including trade based education.

I'm going to assume Louisiana has a vocational based economic model.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:42 am to
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Automation and technology will lead to an increase in rural wealth as it frees up people to work remotely. That's our future


I agree. Some industries have already adapted this model like Cell phone companies.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:45 am to
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Which was done away with while the birth rate CONTINUES to decline. If the mandate was what controlled the birth rate, when it was reversed the birth rate should have returned. But it didn’t



The one-child policy started in earnest in 1979, along with the beginning of market reforms in 1978, and was meant to target people in the provinces. Before that, China's TFR was near 3, and remained above replacement until 1993 or so, which means that it is impossible to deduce whether it was the one-child policy or the rate of capital development that is responsible for the declining TFR. China, and many other countries, have had a precipitous drop in TFR, to the point where countries like Iran, Thailand and Turkey have rates below replacement, which means that capital development is the more likely culprit for China's declining TFR. It is incredibly hard to have TFR rise above replacement (which is 2.1 births per woman) once the TFR has fallen below replacement. Scandinavian countries haven't been able to, and there is a looming demographic crisis in the Gulf, North Africa, and West Asia due to capital development, and a corresponding drop in TFR.

Also the one-child policy was only replaced with in 2016, so we don't know for sure what the impact of the new two-child policy is yet.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:46 am to
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To be fair, a significant percentage are going to be left behind regardless of how they prepare themselves. This goes of all people, not just whites.

Debatable but I'll concede for older whites......anyone needs to retrain themselves.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:46 am to
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More people leave rural for urban.


This is gonna change big time in the next 20 years. Rural America is about to fricking explode. With the rate of technological change You’re going to see a lot more work from home jobs and an exodus from cities as people rediscover nature. Robots and the technological change we’re going through right now are going to fundamentally change how humans live. We’re going to have more time on our hands than we know what to do with. It’s going to be an age of reinlightenment and self discovery. Book it
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:47 am to
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That's one of the reasons red states are less wealthy, because a large amount of their workforce leaves.



I'm not sure this map supports that assertion

Certainly for some states, but, it doesn't appear to be definitive.

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