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re: The combined assets held by US NGOs equals $14.2 trillion of your tax money!!!

Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:08 am to
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
8277 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Interest group "draws attention" to a "problem"

Captive legislator proposes bill to "solve" the problem with $$$$

Same interest group sets up an NGO to "facilitate" the services necessary to "solve" the "problem"

Bill sends $ to the NGO

NGO spends less than 5% of funding on the "problem"

"Problem" is never solved

Rinse
Repeat


Bingo, it very similar to money laundering schemes members of organized crime syndicates go to prison for………..
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:10 am to
I enjoy downvoting SFP as much as the next guy but that is a fair question.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:13 am to
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Bingo, it very similar to money laundering schemes members of organized crime syndicates go to prison for………..


And to make sure no one fricks with the grift, family members of the legislator as well as key judges happen to end up working for the NGOs as executives or board members.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55609 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:12 am to
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It's not even "NGOs". That term is used dishonestly by the content creator posted in OP. The data is for "non-profits".

I get that, but churches are, at times, considered NGOs. The Catholic church was being funded by our federal money to recruit, transport and house illegal immigrants.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
4039 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:14 am to
Yep, time for an FBI raid of a couple of them then announce amnesty for any organizations and employees that return the money and voluntarily shut down.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41333 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:24 am to
If the shooter was a whitey trying to kill a Democrat you would have 500+ posts trying to connect him to Trump
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:44 am to
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If the shooter was a whitey trying to kill a Democrat you would have 500+ posts trying to connect him to Trump


These ramblings resemble the insanity level of the shooter.

Live your truth, I guess.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:49 am to
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Does the fed data breakdown the sourcing? How much is from private and public sources?
only a small government fiscally conservative libertarian would attempt to defend NGOs holding $14T in assets
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:49 am to
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only a small government fiscally conservative libertarian would attempt to defend NGOs holding $14T in assets


I don't think churches should get special treatment by the IRS

*ETA for private donations
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 10:52 am
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:52 am to
Or married folks, or old folks, or minority folks, etc.

I agree
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110972 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:53 am to
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It's not even "NGOs". That term is used dishonestly by the content creator posted in OP. The data is for "non-profits".


Do you think the "content creators" are the people most responsible for blurring the lines as to how to really distinguish between the two?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:59 am to
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Do you think the "content creators" are the people most responsible for blurring the lines as to how to really distinguish between the two?


In this instance? Yes.

"NGO" is a trigger word in MAGA land.

Why didn't they use the actual language?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:59 am to
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quote:
Does the fed data breakdown the sourcing? How much is from private and public sources?

That’s an excellent question. I’m very interested to know the answer. I suspect it is heavily from federal funds, but let’s see.

ETA: You make a good point about churches. They are definitely considered NGOs, and they hold A LOT of property.


Do churches receive federal funds like NGO's?
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13872 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:00 am to
All those 4000 page budgets they passed over the years without having time to read them had consequences... to the detriment of American taxpayers, but to the benefit of NGO industrial complex grifters and frauds, and politicians receiving kickbacks in the way of campaign donations etc. for funding them.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13872 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:01 am to
TDSFPLC says, "NUH UH!!!!!!!"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:01 am to
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Do churches receive federal funds like NGO's?


You know nonprofits get lots of private funds, too?

Like the cause du jour, the SPLC. I'd imagine the vast majority of its funding is from private sourcing, not federal/state dollars.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13872 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:02 am to
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quote:
SlowFlowPro


300+ posts on the Southern Poverty Law Center

Hasn’t touched the attempted Trump shooting

Reappears to defend NGOs


Yep. Dude is a fricking clown. But he's totes conservative tho, y'all.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:08 am to

Nevermind. I asked Grok. Your attempting to lump Churches funding in with NGO's is laughable.


Grok:

quote:

My question relates to the reporting today that collectively, ngo's are worth 14 trillion dollars.
That report includes churches who aren't required to pay taxes.
Im wondering the amount of federal funding churches received compared to ngo's

Thought for 49s

The $14 trillion figure you referenced refers to the total assets held by the entire U.S. nonprofit sector (often called NGOs in this context) as of Q2 2025, per Federal Reserve Financial Accounts data. This includes real estate (hospitals, universities, churches/facilities), investments, endowments, and other assets—roughly $14.1–14.12 trillion overall. It encompasses everything from secular hospitals and universities to foundations, food banks, and religious organizations/churches. Churches are included (via their facilities and any affiliated assets), even though most local congregations don’t file detailed IRS Form 990 reports like other 501(c)(3)s.

facebook.com

Federal Funding to Nonprofits/NGOs OverallNonprofits as a sector receive substantial government funding (federal, state, and local grants/contracts), primarily for secular social services, health, education, housing, disaster relief, etc.Recent data (2021–2023) shows nonprofits that file Form 990 received at least $240–304 billion annually in government grants. This includes direct federal grants plus federal funds passed through states/localities.

urban.org

Roughly 30% of U.S. nonprofits (over 100,000 organizations) get some government grants, with larger ones more likely to rely on them. Government funding often makes up a significant portion of their budgets (sometimes 28–42% or more for those affected).

candid.org

This is the broad “NGO” total you’re comparing against.Federal Funding Specifically to Churches and Faith-Based OrganizationsChurches (local houses of worship/congregations) receive very little direct federal funding compared to the broader nonprofit sector. Federal rules strictly prohibit using taxpayer dollars for religious activities (worship, proselytizing, etc.), so any funding is limited to secular social services—and churches often route it through separate 501(c)(3) arms to avoid entanglement issues. Many churches deliberately avoid federal grants due to compliance burdens, reporting requirements, or concerns about government influence.Faith-based nonprofits/ministries (para-church groups, charities, and some church-affiliated service providers that do file Form 990) received far less. In 2023 data, 321 Christian ministries reported a combined $2.35 billion in government grants (the largest being World Vision at $661 million, often for international aid/refugee work). This is the most concrete recent aggregate for faith-oriented groups.

ministrywatch.com

Broader historical patterns (2000s–2010s data from agencies like HHS, HUD, DOJ) showed faith-based organizations (FBOs) receiving roughly 10–17% of certain social-service grant pools, but overall a small slice of total federal nonprofit funding. Larger FBOs like Catholic Charities or Lutheran services have received hundreds of millions in specific years for refugee resettlement, homeless aid, etc.—but these are service arms, not local churches themselves


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:18 am to
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Nevermind. I asked Grok. Your attempting to lump Churches funding in with NGO's is laughable.


See, YA? There is a reason the content creators dishonestly used "NGO"

It immediately leads to looking at federal funding, which is an associated concept to "NGOs"

quote:

Im wondering the amount of federal funding churches received compared to ngo's


Why did you limit it to federal funding, exactly?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115490 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:21 am to
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Why did you limit it to federal funding, exactly?


Because in a free society, dumbasses are free to spend/donate their money to whomever they please.

Federal money = taxpayer money/debt (translation: your and my money/debt).
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