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re: The Church did not replace Israel in prophecy
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:51 pm to Goombaw
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:51 pm to Goombaw
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Nationally, racially, and spiritually, the nation of Israel exists. God has preserved them supernaturally according to His will.
Whether you want to agree with everything they do or not is up to you, but I will always support their right to exist and defend themselves.
So the answer to my question is that the State of Israel replace Israel
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:52 pm to Goombaw
What if...hear me out...God's covenant with Israel has nothing to do with the STATE of Israel?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:53 pm to BrookhavenBengal
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:54 pm to Goombaw
Paul says otherwise. You should actually read your Bible through.
Try the ESV.
Dont read a Schofield Bible.
By the way. You should actually study what convenant theology is. Your lumping with replacement theology is telling and shows you don’t know.
And I don’t know any church that teaches replacement. It’s not a theology that’s taught. It’s a word dispensationalists use to fight off criticism.
Try the ESV.
Dont read a Schofield Bible.
By the way. You should actually study what convenant theology is. Your lumping with replacement theology is telling and shows you don’t know.
And I don’t know any church that teaches replacement. It’s not a theology that’s taught. It’s a word dispensationalists use to fight off criticism.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:54 pm to joshnorris14
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Christ is the New Covenant
Correct. I should have said my deal with Christ.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:55 pm to mudshuvl05
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Another know-nothing dispensationalist.
Another sadly ignorant reformist. Many of the reform theology writers simply believed that way because they saw no nation of Israel and no possibility of one. The idea of was so implausible that it caused them to look to other ideas of interpreting the Bible. Those people would’ve been stunned to see today that there exists a nation of Israel. They would also likely rejoice.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:55 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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Paul says otherwise
He should learn it from a man of, correct me if I’m wrong, of Jewish faith.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:55 pm to Goombaw
Keep studying the Bible, that's all you can do
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:56 pm to joshnorris14
“I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters, so that you will not feel proud about yourselves. Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. As the Scriptures say, “The one who rescues will come from Jerusalem, and he will turn Israel away from ungodliness. And this is my covenant with them, that I will take away their sins.”
Many of the people of Israel are now enemies of the Good News, and this benefits you Gentiles. Yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For God’s gifts and his call can never be withdrawn.
Once, you Gentiles were rebels against God, but when the people of Israel rebelled against him, God was merciful to you instead. Now they are the rebels, and God’s mercy has come to you so that they, too, will share in God’s mercy. For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.”
Romans 11:25-32
Many of the people of Israel are now enemies of the Good News, and this benefits you Gentiles. Yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For God’s gifts and his call can never be withdrawn.
Once, you Gentiles were rebels against God, but when the people of Israel rebelled against him, God was merciful to you instead. Now they are the rebels, and God’s mercy has come to you so that they, too, will share in God’s mercy. For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.”
Romans 11:25-32
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:56 pm to Goombaw
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The idea of was so implausible that it caused them to look to other ideas of interpreting the Bible
Again, I’m asking you which Jews of the world are saved? Those that believed Jesus was the messiah or those that don’t? Or all of them?
ETA Randman beat me to it.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:57 pm to Goombaw
Israel is defined literally and figuratively as 'the people who struggle with God.' The state of Isreael has turned their back on God.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:58 pm to extremetigerfanatic
I like the KJV, I believe it’s God’s word for English speaking people. And I have read it and studied it.
I’ll edit my comment since you edited yours. Covenant theology is replacement theology without saying it. There are three groups of people on the earth: Jews, Gentiles, and the Church. Race doesn’t matter, citizenship doesn’t matter, you’re in one of those groups. I’m part of the church and happy to be. It’s Christ’s masterpiece. But that doesn’t throw away the Jews.
I’ll edit my comment since you edited yours. Covenant theology is replacement theology without saying it. There are three groups of people on the earth: Jews, Gentiles, and the Church. Race doesn’t matter, citizenship doesn’t matter, you’re in one of those groups. I’m part of the church and happy to be. It’s Christ’s masterpiece. But that doesn’t throw away the Jews.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:59 pm to Goombaw
we really gonna let the world get nuked because yall got bad reading comprehension?
the new israel is within
the new israel is within
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:02 pm to Goombaw
The Jews/Hebrews from the old testament became Christians. Christians worshiping the Jews is a relatively new phenomenon, as Jews have subverted Christian churches in the past couple hundreds of years. The early and middle ages European Christian churches didnt have the same affinity for Jews that modern churches teach and promote.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:02 pm to Goombaw
Someone explain Revelations to me. Is it an extension of Daniel?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:04 pm to Goombaw
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Replacement or covenant theology is heresy.
Are you laboring under an understanding that these are synonymous?
ETA: I unfortunately read the rest of the thread. Including this:
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Covenant theology is replacement theology without saying it.
Until we have a religion/ theology board i am out.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:05 pm to Goombaw
The new covenant was instituted at the last supper and seen as the completion of God’s promise to Israel. It’s an extension of God’s promise to everyone through the blood of our Savior.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:06 pm to Goombaw
You are wrong
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:07 pm to Goombaw
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I like the KJV, I believe it’s God’s word for English speaking people. And I have read it and studied it.
It doesn’t come across that way at all.
You completely dismissed Romans 9 without giving any context.
You could explain yourself better.
Romans 9:8
But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:08 pm to Errerrerrwere
The nation of Israel, the 12 tribes, the descendants of Abraham. The denial of the state of Israel being actually Jewish is right up there with the “black Israelites” level of delusion.
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