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The Boogaloo Boys consider themselves allied with BLM.

Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:50 pm
I keep hearing they are right wing, neo-nazis, and white supremacists.

That is false.

They are anti-government hipsters with a shitty dress code.

Hank is the ideal Boogaloo Boy candidate.


Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:52 pm to
Never heard of them. But one has a US flag hat and another appears to have a Gadsden flag hat....not exactly attire I’d expect to see on Marxists
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:54 pm to
they are extreme libertarians. which means anarchists.



Posted by jamboybarry
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:57 pm to
Honestly looks like a bunch of dumb fricking kids that don’t understand the ramifications of their actions
Posted by Chrome
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:00 pm to
So they are anarchists for an affinity for Hawaiian shirts.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:03 pm to
Anarchists who raided their dads’ closet and gun case.
Posted by UcobiaA
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:10 pm to
They hijacked a meme as far as I can tell. All the boogaloo and big igloo stuff I ever saw was just message board stuff and memes and not an actual movement.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:12 pm to
Yes, that’s what libertarians are.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:13 pm to
These aren’t boogaloos.
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:16 pm to
Like like they need their moms to lay out their clothes for them next time
Posted by EllisD
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:20 pm to
we already knew that the FBI is allied with BLM...
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:21 pm to
They’re feds.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:23 pm to
It's amazing how our gang costumes have gone downhill since The Warriors.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Honestly looks like a bunch of dumb fricking kids that don’t understand the ramifications of their actions


This
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:25 pm to
Does that dude have ball shorts with low top cowboy boots on
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:27 pm to
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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:51 pm to
Holy TAPCO, batman
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 11:01 pm to
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The Boogaloo Boys consider themselves allied with BLM.
Not according to the The Gray Lady

NY Times - The Chaos Agents



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At first glance, the We Are Washington rally might have looked like an early Fourth of July celebration, all bright stars-and-stripes Americana. It was a cool May morning in the state capital, Olympia, and low clouds were threatening to ruin the red, white and blue archway of balloons above the rally stage, the crepe paper behind it and the cut-out letters propped up in front that spelled “FREEDOM.” Few people wore masks. A man with a pistol on his hip meandered through the several-hundred-person crowd selling tiny yellow Gadsden flags — the “Don’t Tread on Me” rattlesnake — for $5 each to anyone who wasn’t already carrying something. A canopy of marker-drawn signs held above heads blared complaints about Covid-19 and the stay-at-home order declared by Gov. Jay Inslee, at this point in its 69th day. “0.2% Death Rate. No Muzzle”; “Inslee Is the Real Virus”; “Kim Jong Inslee.” Some took a more conspiratorial tone: “You Are Being Lied To.”

Near the back of the crowd was a social-media-ready selfie backdrop: a large Q made of squares of cardboard, lying on the grass in front of the Capitol building. Below it, a hashtag: #WWG1WGA, “Where we go one, we go all.” It’s the rallying cry for QAnon, the conspiracy theory that at its most basic centers on a Democrat-run child-sex-trafficking ring and at its most elaborate involves figures like the pope and Joe Biden having been executed in secret and replaced with holograms. It might seem, in other words, like an odd theory to float at a rally that was ostensibly about the reopening of the local economy. But around the country, events like this one had become a beacon to fringe thinkers: anti-vaxxers, internet trolls, gun nuts, Proud Boys, hate groups, antigovernment militias and any other Americans who interpreted social-distancing and face-covering regulations as an infringement of their constitutional freedoms.

These reopening rallies had become more than just rallies, allowing everyday Americans — suspecting a liberal ploy in the shutdown of the economy and misled by right-wing politicians, up to and including President Trump, about the dangers of the coronavirus — to be exposed to the ideologies of a wide variety of extremists.

As the crowd grew in Olympia, a woman in a hooded sweatshirt got up onstage to give a speech and encourage the crowd to join something called People’s Rights Washington. They could be a part of it by texting the word RIGHTS to a five-digit number, which would then enlist them in a phone tree, allowing any member to report anything they deem a violation of personal freedom. “If there is an emergency, if a contact tracer shows up at your door, if C.P.S. shows up at your door, if the Health Department comes to your work and threatens to shut you down,” she explained, “we can send a text out that says, ‘Get to this address right now.’”

Standing at the rear edge of the crowd, I took a few steps closer when I realized the voice coming from the stage sounded familiar. It was Kelli Stewart. She has been a live-streamer at several federal-court trials I’ve covered in the West — particularly of the Bundy family in both Nevada and Oregon. After Ammon Bundy, his brother Ryan and several other defendants were acquitted in 2016 of charges related to occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, Stewart cheered and cried at the verdict, then paced in front of the courthouse reading from the Constitution. In the past two months, she has live-streamed from rallies and from the “underground church” she opened. For several years, she has referred to law enforcement as “Blue ISIS.”

Now she explained to the crowd in Olympia that just a few years ago, she was just like all of them. She was a mother, a Sunday-school teacher raising goats on a small farm when the news of the refuge occupation broke. But it wasn’t until Robert LaVoy Finicum, a 54-year-old Arizona rancher who served as a spokesman for the occupation, was shot and killed by the police that she became an activist. It was her wake-up call, she said: the moment when the world she had always known was forever changed.

Stewart is now a fixture at right-wing rallies like this one, and as she spoke, she got at something undeniably true about these gatherings: This is where everyday people like her can be reborn, leaving their world behind and subscribing to a new collective truth. This is where they find fellowship with other people who are upset enough about the same things, who hold the same fears and frustrations. This is where isolation ends, where communion begins.

At the back of this crowd, which was mostly mothers and grandmothers and church leaders and business owners and the like, stood a clutch of men with long guns who didn’t seem to be listening much to the speeches. They clustered together in small groups, their eyes scanning the crowd behind sunglasses. One man carried a flag bearing the logo of the Three Percenters militia: the Roman numeral III in the center of a ring of stars. There was a cardboard sign propped up with the letters “NWO” — New World Order — crossed out. And in this mix were a couple of men wearing body armor decorated with American-flag patches. One wore a blue-and-white floral Hawaiian shirt under a desert-sand-colored vest, packed with as many as 90 extra rounds of ammunition. The other man had a different patch on his vest. It read: “Boogaloo.”
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 11:02 pm to
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Just what the word “Boogaloo” means depends on whom you ask. In simple terms, it’s the newest and youngest subset of the antigovernment movement, born in the full light of the internet age — with all the peculiarities that entails. The name comes from 4chan, the lamentably prolific message board where many memes are born, and involves the 1984 breakdancing movie “Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo.” Though the movie was panned, the second half of its name had a long afterlife, eventually wending its way onto forums and social media, where it became slang for a fabled coming civil war — a sequel to the first. To some white supremacists, it means a race war. To others, it was all just a joke. But many others take it seriously, and to them it means a less well-defined cataclysm touched off, or sped up by, any number of groups who share antigovernment ideas and a deep love of firearms.

The Boogaloo is not just an event; it’s a movement of people, too. They call themselves “Boogalooers” or “Boogaloo bois.” Most seem to have extreme libertarian politics, with a heavy emphasis on Second Amendment rights. The Boogaloo is leaderless, and its goals differ depending on which Facebook or Telegram group you’re hanging out in. Some of these men claim to be antiracist, while others hold white-supremacist beliefs and warn of an impending white genocide. While some Boogaloo pages on Facebook feature periodic talk of racial justice and urgent needs to address climate change, many others are filled with memes featuring neo-Nazi black suns. If there is one thing that binds the Boogaloo together besides guns and Hawaiian shirts, it is a firm anti-authority, anti-law-enforcement stance — and a willingness, if not an outright desire, to bring about the collapse of American society.

When I spoke to Kris Hunter, a 39-year-old Boogaloo boi from Waco, Texas, he painted the movement as just wanting to help. Hunter told me he and his compatriots feel their hands have been forced. “A lot of the violence perpetrated by the government, police brutality, foreign wars, civilian casualties, no-knock raids — I guess the way we viewed it was: ‘How in the world are we supposed to stand up against this?’”

I reached Hunter through Tree of Liberty, a website that seems to be acting as a public face for a movement that, by and large, congregates on private social-media pages. He says his group — the United States Boogalier Corps, by his estimate 80 percent military veterans — doesn’t take this self-appointed duty lightly. He pointed to the Boston Massacre of 1770, when five colonists were shot by British soldiers. “That was this moment when both the British and colonists realized we have run out of all peaceful options, and now they’re literally killing us out in the open,” he said. “We want the American people to understand that they have the constitutional authority to defend themselves against unconstitutional oppression.” But he insisted the movement does not want any actual confrontation with government forces.

This is not at all an uncommon stance among right-wing militias, which the Boogaloo both resembles and diverges from. And to truly understand the Boogaloo, you must first understand the militia movement that took root in the United States in the 1990s. The standoff between the white-supremacist Weaver family and the A.T.F. and the F.B.I. at Ruby Ridge in Idaho and the siege of the Branch Davidians’ compound at Waco led to a rapid expansion in their ranks, but broader societal dislocations were in the background, too. The United Nations and NAFTA, for example, figure prominently in militia ideology, often claimed to be signs of a so-called New World Order. “People get sucked into these movements for a bunch of different reasons,” says Travis McAdam, former executive director of the Montana Human Rights Network, a progressive organization that does research on the state’s extremists. “For some people it’s guns or environmental regulations, or some people don’t like people of color. You have people brought into this wide opening of the funnel cloud for various reasons.”

But Boogaloo bois “are making their way through the funnel cloud,” McAdam says. And like militias, they’re arming up for the future. But there’s a key difference. With militias, “there’s always that imminent war coming, there’s always that invasion by One World forces,” he says. “It never happened, but it was always going to happen. Whereas with the Boogaloo stuff, there is a piece of that that is like, ‘We want to make that happen.’”

The Boogaloo has thrived in an environment rife with entry points to the militia funnel cloud — the nihilistic swamps of social media and 4chan. Each Boogaloo group takes a different form, but memes are their common language — some funny, others less so. “Victory or fire. I Will Not Burn Alone,” reads one. Posts routinely call for the shooting of pedophiles. “Save the Bees. Plant More Trees. Clean the Seas. Shoot Commies,” reads another. Fears of climate change figure into the groups’ apocalyptic worldview, but they often find themselves attaching to reactionary ideas. “It’s very simple,” one meme reads, “learn to hate or die silently.” Another: “Environmentalism and nationalism go hand in hand. It is pride in your people, pride in your nation and pride in the very soil of the land.” But one common theme undergirds all these messages, regardless of which Boogaloo subset they attract: Do something about it. And do it now.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 11:03 pm to
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Back in November 2019, Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, issued a warning about who was using the word “Boogaloo” and why, in the form of a blog post illustrated with bizarre memes pulled from their forums: Pepe the frog firing a bazooka, a laser-eyed storm trooper with a black-sun halo, a big igloo. Though some still use “Boogaloo” as a joke, Pitcavage wrote, “an increasing number of people employ it with serious intent.” Still, he finished with a note of caution: Some people use the word “Boogaloo” to “mock some of the more fanatical or gung-ho elements of their own movement.”

“By that time it had crystallized from more than just a concept or a term,” he told me in July. “The beginnings of a movement had already started.” He went on: “It also started manifesting in the real world, with people showing up at events, self-identifying as Boogaloo.” The spring of 2020 was like a coming-out party for the movement, as men in colorful floral shirts and body armor festooned with igloo-shaped patches, semiautomatic weapons in hand, showed up at reopening rallies against Covid-19 restrictions across the country, from Lansing, Mich., to Denver, to Harrisburg, Pa. Some carried black-and-white American flags with a red stripe of floral print through the middle and an igloo in the place of stars.

In March, a Missouri white supremacist told an undercover F.B.I. agent he planned to detonate a car bomb outside a hospital treating Covid-19 patients. He called the plan “Operation Boogaloo.” When the F.B.I. tried to serve the man a probable-cause warrant, a firefight ensued, and he shot himself before he could be apprehended and succumbed to his wounds at the hospital. In April, a man in Texarkana, Texas, who identified with the movement streamed a live video on Facebook while dressed in body armor and a Hawaiian shirt, telling viewers he was “hunting the hunters”: searching for police officers to ambush. He is accused of leading several officers on a high-speed chase, continuing even after his tires were deflated by a spike strip. He was later apprehended and pleaded not guilty to attempted-murder charges.

As the movement’s profile rose, catching the attention of the media, Boogaloo bois bent the word to shield it from the eyes of content moderators. “Boogaloo” became “big igloo,” then “big luau” — hence the Hawaiian shirts. Boogaloo bois became “boojahideen.” On the forums, they would joke about a “pig roast” — code for killing police officers. In June, Facebook claimed that it deleted hundreds of accounts and pages devoted to the movement; by mid-July, the Boogaloo bois were back on Facebook talking about a “spicy fiesta.”

“The problem with the Boogaloo bois is they’re not a cohesive movement,” J.J. MacNab, a fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism, said during testimony to the House Subcommittee on Intelligence and Counterterrorism in mid-July. “You could actually, in a really bizarre world, have two Boogaloo groups shooting at each other.” It is on the issue of law enforcement that the Boogaloo seems to greatly diverge from the militias that came before it, which in many cases collaborate with or even have members that are police officers. “They’re really anti-police,” Pitcavage says of the Boogaloo; they may say they want to find common cause with anyone protesting the police — but some want to act as agents provocateurs, accelerating street violence and furthering any conflict. For many of them, the protests following the killing of George Floyd on Memorial Day looked like the perfect opportunity to create mayhem.

On May 29, according to a criminal complaint, Steven Carrillo — a 32-year-old Air Force sergeant who has served in Kuwait, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan — tapped out a message on Facebook to other Boogaloo bois he had met online. Carrillo was stationed at Travis Air Force Base in Northern California and saw potential in the ongoing Black Lives Matter protests in Oakland. “Go to the riots and support our own cause,” Carrillo instructed his friends. “Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box.”

That night in Oakland, the police clashed with protesters again and again, fogging the crowd in clouds of tear gas. Marchers blocked the freeway. Around 9 p.m., according to local reports, the police tried to disperse protesters again with crowd-control munitions. It was 9:44 p.m. when a white van with no plates and what looked like a missing hubcap rolled through the intersection of 12th and Jefferson in the middle of downtown Oakland, about nine blocks from the protests. As it rolled by the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building and U.S. Courthouse, the side door slid open, and gunfire came out in bursts of twos and threes. Nine-millimeter rounds ripped through the courthouse’s squat guard station — a beige hut with an eggshell-blue roof dripping with rust stains.

Inside were two contracted federal security officers. One was David Patrick Underwood, a 53-year-old Black man who had recently bought an engagement ring for his girlfriend. The bullets from that white van killed Underwood and seriously wounded the other officer. The van was there one second — a flash of white on security footage — and then it was gone.
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