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re: The bible doesn't forbid homosexuality - the left
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:58 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:58 pm to AggieHank86
Ah, an ad hominem. OK. Never mind then.
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:02 pm to UGATiger26
not only are some people enjoying relationship other than to reproduce there has been a gradual reduction in sperm count for two generations.
I see both as natures way of ending over population.
as I assert that the entire reason anyone opposed homo back in the day is so the tribe (new Christians) would increase. same as opposing use of condoms in Catholic church.
I see both as natures way of ending over population.
as I assert that the entire reason anyone opposed homo back in the day is so the tribe (new Christians) would increase. same as opposing use of condoms in Catholic church.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:03 pm to CelticDog
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I see both as natures way of ending over population. as I assert that the entire reason anyone opposed homo back in the day is so the tribe (new Christians) would increase.
I’m not saying it was aliens…but it was aliens.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:07 pm to AggieHank86
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That is the language found in your preferred English translation of a Greek translation of a Hebrew text.
The Bible mentions homosexuality often and it’s always in a negative context. Now show me just one Bible verse that says homosexuality is ok.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:10 pm to eddieray
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I didn’t not understand why God would make you attracted to a certain sex then forbid it.
God doesn’t make a man attracted to another man more than he makes an adult man sexually attracted to a child or a dog. All of these unnatural passions stem from sin.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:13 pm to AggieHank86
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catholic interpretations.
Nice edit. You almost let your bigotry slip too. Hard to stay on that moral high horse, otherwise.
Either way…I guess you are only interested in material, sources, and interpretations that will eventually align with your desired conclusions, Mr. Objectivity.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:13 pm to blueboy
There’s not just one reference to homosexual acts in the Bible. It is easy to find in the Bible. It is spoken of in both the old and New Testaments. Google is your friend.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:15 pm to eddieray
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Adultery is a sin too
It isn’t the sin, it is the continued living in sin…
Everyone is going to sin, asking forgiveness and not sinning again is what God asks…
Homosexuals want their sin condoned and no matter how much they attempt to word salad it, it is a sin period…
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:20 pm to Revelator
quote:Neither Greek nor Hebrew even had a WORD for "homosexuality," as that term has been used for the last 150 years (when the term was first coined in German). Yes, the Bible speaks ill of SOME SORT of same-sex interaction in a couple of places (Leviticus, Corinthians and Romans, as I recall). The challenge is to determine exactly what SORT of relationship was being discussed.
The Bible mentions homosexuality often
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:20 pm to AggieHank86
It’s not a challenge.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:24 pm to UGATiger26
quote:Not at all. I am quite interested in reading the passage related to same-sex relationships. I just don't have any interest in reading twenty pages trying (and perhaps failing) to find it, when you can simply tell me what language you reference.
I guess you are only interested in material, sources, and interpretations that will eventually align with your desired conclusions,
Your response is the equivalent of saying "read the book," if I asked you to tell me where (spoiler alert) Old Yeller dies.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:25 pm to AggieHank86
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The challenge is to determine exactly what SORT of relationship was being discussed.
OMG NOT THIS shite AGAIN!
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:25 pm to AggieHank86
Ah now it’s intellectual laziness.
Ooohh…20 pages. Heaven forbid. Some objective scholar you are.
Ooohh…20 pages. Heaven forbid. Some objective scholar you are.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:26 pm to Revelator
the Bible mentions homosexuality frequently, but does it refer to all homosexuality, specific form of homosexuality (man & boy), married man & boy, or ritualistic homosexuality (cult sex for pagan idols)?
Each person is to read and pray and develop a relationship with God and the Messiah. And let them guide your life, groe your faith, submit and transform according to His will.
imo Grooming should be shut down to protect childhood innocence, but there is too much focus on one of many sins listed in Leviticus. Not that its not a sin, but there are many more. How many eat crawfish?
Per Jesus, he who forgives will be forgiven.
edit- looked it up and not eating unclean aquatic creatures may only apply to the Isrealites.
Each person is to read and pray and develop a relationship with God and the Messiah. And let them guide your life, groe your faith, submit and transform according to His will.
imo Grooming should be shut down to protect childhood innocence, but there is too much focus on one of many sins listed in Leviticus. Not that its not a sin, but there are many more. How many eat crawfish?
Per Jesus, he who forgives will be forgiven.
edit- looked it up and not eating unclean aquatic creatures may only apply to the Isrealites.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:27 pm to AggieHank86
And here is Hanky defending the sexual deviants again and again…. Moth to a flame…
How’s goes the grooming Hanky?
How’s goes the grooming Hanky?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:30 pm to The Maj
Just doing a textual analysis trying to understand Leviticus and Corinthians, my friend.
As a good Christian, I imagine that you would want to do the same.
The questions, as I see it, are:
1. Exactly what is the prohibition?
2. Exactly to whom does it apply?
It aslo seem to me that the best way to answer those questions is to try to understand the prohibitions, in the language in which they were written.
By all means, please join the discussion.
Or hurl feces from the peanut gallery. Your call.
As a good Christian, I imagine that you would want to do the same.
The questions, as I see it, are:
1. Exactly what is the prohibition?
2. Exactly to whom does it apply?
It aslo seem to me that the best way to answer those questions is to try to understand the prohibitions, in the language in which they were written.
By all means, please join the discussion.
Or hurl feces from the peanut gallery. Your call.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:35 pm to UGATiger26
quote:It sounds to me as if your catechism may not directly address the issue, and you are unwilling to admit as much.
Ah now it’s intellectual laziness.
Oh well.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:37 pm to Revelator
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The Bible mentions homosexuality often and it’s always in a negative context.
Does they Bible ever say anything positive about wearing mixed fabrics?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:39 pm to AggieHank86
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Neither Greek nor Hebrew even had a WORD for "homosexuality," as that term has been used for the last 150 years (when the term was first coined in German).
So what is your point? Are you suggesting that people didn’t perform homosexual acts before this time because there was no word to describe it? You are trying to play semantical games when we both know the Bible clearly describes homosexual acts no matter what words they use to describe them.
So do you prefer the term sodomites?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:39 pm to blueboy
As for Leviticus 18:22, every text has a context. It is being discussed here as to whether the verse is condemning a single abusive act, or a lifestyle. The problem with that is that the Near Eastern culture in which the Hebrew Bible (OT) was written was not familiar with homosexuality as an orientation or a lifestyle. That’s not to say it didn’t exist; it is to say that no one in that culture was living an "out” lifestyle. What Near Eastern culture of that era was familiar with was the occasional act of sodomy, usually as an act of force and associated with humiliation, revenge, or subjection. (Cf. Genesis 19:4-5 and Judges 19:22 for examples).
So it is correct to say that what is being condemned is a single act of homosexual rape, but incorrect to infer from that that the Bible is okay with a homosexual lifestyle. It’s impossible to read the Bible and not come away with the conclusion that the Bible takes a dim view of homosexuality, probably because they viewed non-procreative acts as aberrant. One wonders why God made so many homosexuals if He has a problem with them, but that’s another topic for another day.
So it is correct to say that what is being condemned is a single act of homosexual rape, but incorrect to infer from that that the Bible is okay with a homosexual lifestyle. It’s impossible to read the Bible and not come away with the conclusion that the Bible takes a dim view of homosexuality, probably because they viewed non-procreative acts as aberrant. One wonders why God made so many homosexuals if He has a problem with them, but that’s another topic for another day.
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