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The Barrett/Logoa Decision: What's the More Important Choice, Roe v Wade or 2nd Amendment?
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:42 pm
1. Having an appointee that supports the repeal of Roe V Wade or 2. strengthening/protecting our 2nd amendment rights?
Most suburban women voters, that Trump needs for re-election, favor abortion being legal.
American gun ownership rights are favored by a more diverse group of Americans wanting protection from rioters, looters, and the other criminal element.
With Barrett you get the first and last one, to maybe Trumps's detriment. With Logoa you might get the first one but you know for sure you get the second one.
Most suburban women voters, that Trump needs for re-election, favor abortion being legal.
American gun ownership rights are favored by a more diverse group of Americans wanting protection from rioters, looters, and the other criminal element.
With Barrett you get the first and last one, to maybe Trumps's detriment. With Logoa you might get the first one but you know for sure you get the second one.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 6:54 pm
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:44 pm to boudinman
Right now I think it’s number two. They’ve been coming after the 2 really hard and I think it’s a much more winnable battle.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:45 pm to boudinman
My guns, my choice. 2A all the way.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:45 pm to boudinman
Amy Coney Barrett.
Amy will do both.
I'm not interested in anyone else.
quote:
1. Having an appointee that supports the repeal of Roe V Wade or 2. strengthening/protecting our 2nd amendment rights?
Amy will do both.
I'm not interested in anyone else.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:46 pm to MrJimBeam
quote:
They’ve been coming after the 2 really hard and I think it’s a much more winnable battle.
SCOTUS has been refusing to hear gun cases lately, a new judge will change that.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:46 pm to boudinman
quote:
Most suburban women voters, that Trump needs for re-election, favor abortion being legal.
I do not believe this! Do you have data for likely voters in this cohort? By race? By Age? By state?.....,outlandish claim!!
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:47 pm to boudinman
Abortion is not going away. I think, even with Barrett, one of the conservative justices will break ranks when the chips are down.
Therefore, by default, it’s the 2nd Amendment.
Without the 2nd Amendment, on a long enough timeline, this country will see a genocide.
Therefore, by default, it’s the 2nd Amendment.
Without the 2nd Amendment, on a long enough timeline, this country will see a genocide.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:48 pm to boudinman
Roe v Wade isn’t getting overturned, so just throw that consideration out. Even IF the right case comes up, and even IF ACB votes to overturn precedent, there are at most 2 who would vote with her. Roberts, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are not going to vote against that sort of precedent.
I don’t have a preference for either, but Lagoa would be harder for the left to publicly go all in on attacking. And ultimately it could swing the hispanic vote a few percentage points.
I know this board is against affirmative action brown hires, but she seems perfectly qualified to me.
I don’t have a preference for either, but Lagoa would be harder for the left to publicly go all in on attacking. And ultimately it could swing the hispanic vote a few percentage points.
I know this board is against affirmative action brown hires, but she seems perfectly qualified to me.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:49 pm to TigerMuskyFanMinneso
I have seen data that says women are slightly majority prolife
It's a nice talking point vs the progressives
It's a nice talking point vs the progressives
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:50 pm to boudinman
ACB is perfect in the sense that the Democrats would look really bad attacking her.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:59 pm to boudinman
quote:
What's the More Important Choice, Roe v Wade or 2nd Amendment?
2nd Amendment
Anyone that says otherwise hasn’t been paying attention to the American left for the last four years.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:00 pm to boudinman
Second Amendment. Who cares if nasty whores abort their own kids -- I'd actually make it mandatory for leftists to get abortions if I could.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:01 pm to boudinman
2A and it isn’t close.
One of these self-defense cases from the riots is going to get to the Supreme Court.
The left can’t ban guns, but they can ruin your life for using them morally appropriately.
We can’t let that happen
One of these self-defense cases from the riots is going to get to the Supreme Court.
The left can’t ban guns, but they can ruin your life for using them morally appropriately.
We can’t let that happen
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:04 pm to boudinman
2nd amendment for sure
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:08 pm to boudinman
2A is far, far more important
One it is actually specified in the constitution
Second as the 2A goes, so goes the rest of our rights.
One it is actually specified in the constitution
Second as the 2A goes, so goes the rest of our rights.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:09 pm to boudinman
Even if Roe v Wade was overturned it doesn’t outlaw abortion. Just sends control to the states. Abortion would still be widespread.
I’m going 2A on this one.
I’m going 2A on this one.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:39 pm to Bham Bammer
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Even if Roe v Wade was overturned it doesn’t outlaw abortion. Just sends control to the states. Abortion would still be widespread.
I’m going 2A on this one.
All of this^^^^
2A all the way.. not really even close as it is in the constitutional and a good given right, IMO.
RE RvW - reversing won't make it illegal. like many Fed laws it should be a state level decision.
I don't agree with abortion but there are instances where it should be allowed up to a certain point in the gestation period.
Aborting Any unborn that is life sustainable outside the womb should be considered murder. IMO
Fed gov should also get out of prohibition laws and let states decide what is legal to consume.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:54 pm to boudinman
2nd Amendment.
You don't need to worry about abortion being legal or illegal if your pull out game is strong.
You don't need to worry about abortion being legal or illegal if your pull out game is strong.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:55 pm to boudinman
2A and it ain’t even close
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:You know this how?
Roberts, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are not going to vote against that sort of precedent
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