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The Advocate's Dan Fagan: This group of Louisiana voters could be election trouble for JBE

Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:02 am
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:02 am
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Political strategists often say incumbent candidates face an uphill battle when a high percentage of voters remain undecided. The idea is if they don’t like you by now, they never will. This is why the latest poll involving this year’s race for Louisiana governor is devastating for John Bel Edwards.


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More than one in three likely voters questioned by the Baton Rouge-based JMC Analytics and Polling told the firm they’re undecided about who to vote for in the governor’s race. Typically, undecided voters swing away from incumbents as Election Day approaches.

This is especially true when the incumbent is a Democrat. The media is often more supportive of Democrats than Republicans, and that has certainly been the case with Edwards. Much of the state’s media supported the governor’s “fiscal cliff” and “financial crisis” narrative while savaging House Republican’s for initially standing against the governor’s tax increases. And yet with all that positive coverage, one in three remain undecided about Edwards. Once Edwards' political opponents begin to run ads presenting the other side of the story of his first term, his polling numbers are sure to fall.

The new poll has more devastating news for Edwards. An embarrassingly low 38% of the 650 likely voters in the poll conducted between April 25 and 27 said they support Edwards. That meager support after three and half years of mostly favorable media coverage shows Edwards is in real trouble.


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In a two-way runoff between Edwards and Abraham, the two candidates are statistically tied considering the margin of error.

“The biggest takeaway from this poll is that Dr. Abraham is within the margin of error in a head-to-head match up with John Bel Edwards, despite having half the name recognition of the sitting governor,” said John Vick, Abraham’s campaign manager.

Common sense would dictate once political ads begin to expose Edwards for his tax-raising ways, anti-business bent, and litigation crusade targeting the energy industry, the governor’s sure to fall behind Abraham in deeply red Louisiana.

And then there’s Donald Trump. The Republican president is widely popular in Louisiana. Edwards has gone out of his way to stay on his good side, bragging Trump once told him he’s his favorite Democrat. But if Trump actively campaigns for Abraham in the runoff, it could be the end of the Edwards era in Louisiana. And the president would have every motivation to do so. Helping defeat an incumbent Democrat governor a year before the president’s re-election bid would provide positive momentum for Trump.

Trump is traveling to Louisiana next week. It’s no secret the president likes it when people kiss up to him. Like him, he likes you. If Edwards were ever to perfect the art of being a suck-up, now would be the time.

Another challenge Edwards is facing is explaining why he’s a Democrat in the first place. Louisiana voters are sure to question why Edwards aligns himself with a party with presidential candidates embracing the Green New Deal, supporting Medicaid for all, and infanticide. They may wonder why Edwards supports a party increasingly shifting away from capitalism and toward socialism.

“Voters see John Bel as a reflection of national Democrat policies in America, and we have one of the worst economies in the nation, and then they see Ralph Abraham as a representation of Trump and Trump’s economic policies, and he can turn this thing around just like Trump has done on a national level,” said Lionel Rainey, political consultant to Abraham.

Some may argue Edwards surprised everyone the last time he ran and could do it again. But last time, Edwards employed the holier-than-thou approach, attacking opponent David Vitter’s character. Unless Abraham has some deep, dark secret we don’t know about, Edwards will have to run on his record this year. Boasting about his honor code won’t cut it this time.


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Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:07 am to
Dan Fagan loves the old bankrupt banana republican ways.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:09 am to
Are you and your pals going to go all in on Jindal bashing this fall?

I hope that happens because that would be the surest sign that JBE has achieved literally nothing positive at all that deserves reelection and is extremely vulnerable to candidates that has less than half of the name recognition that JBE has as Governor.
Posted by member12
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:10 am to
JBE is going to have problems in the runoff. The second largest metro in the state isn't keen on him, and he's vulnerable in north Louisiana.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 6:11 am
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:12 am to
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JBE is going to have problems in the runoff.



If the polls are still close, the losing republican is a team player and endorses the other republican and Trump and Pence come to town to lay the hammer down on JBE with some MAGA rallies, then look the hell out.

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The second largest metro in the state isn't keen on him, and he's vulnerable in north Louisiana.


JBE keeps talking about how he's going to win outright in the first round and there's data showing he can’t get over 50.1% against either Abraham or Rispone in any of the state’s major markets.

Not even Nola or shitport and there's a huge number of undecideds across the board.

And Abraham is already at 50%+ in two markets.

Tell me how that's a good thing for an incumbent.

This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 6:17 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:12 am to
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Unless Abraham has some deep, dark secret we don’t know about, Edwards will have to run on his record this year. Boasting about his honor code won’t cut it this time.


This is such a biting and poignant statement and needs to be repeated over and over again. Make Edwards run on his tax and spend and pro litigation record and don’t let him off the hook
Posted by member12
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:14 am to
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This is such a biting and poignant statement and needs to be repeated over and over again. Make Edwards run on his tax and spend and pro litigation record and don’t let him off the hook



Republican or Democrat.....you can't deny that Edwards has had major issues with Economic Development, Higher Education, and infrastructure during his tenure.

Louisiana is not experiencing the same economic boom occurring in the rest of the state.

To be more direct, if Edwards had is head on right from an economic development perspective, actually cared about the Baton Rouge region (infrastructure in particular), and gave a shite about LSU.....I'd vote for him. He fails at all of the above key issues for me.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:23 am to
The Edwards legacy

.2 + -1.3 + 1.1 GDP = 0 growth in three years, folks leaving by the thousands bigger government, and more and more taxes.

But he’s not Bobby Jindal
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:31 am to
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To be more direct, if Edwards had is head on right from an economic development perspective, actually cared about the Baton Rouge region (infrastructure in particular), and gave a shite about LSU.....I'd vote for him. He fails at all of the above key issues for me.


There’s a reason why piggy Mary Landreiu was a huge friend to the largest private employer in Louisiana, oil and gas industry, and actually represented their interests in DC. That support helped keep her in the senate for 18 years.

JBE could’ve taken a cue from her and applied that smart lesson to his Governorship and it would’ve set him apart from the national party as a good local democrat but no he chose to buddy himself with ambulance chasers who want to make millions attacking oil and gas with bs lawsuits and help them out with the obligatory red tape as well.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:34 am to
Trump will come down and help with the run off. As long as Rispone doesn’t knife Abraham in the back like some other “republicans” have done in the past, we got this.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:34 am to
bluffing to shut down LSU football should lose him the election
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:36 am to
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Are you and your pals going to go all in on Jindal bashing this fall?


Do you ever read Louisiana Voice? This, and TDS, is all Tom Aswell (LV's editor) has in his arsenal.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:36 am to
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:54 am to
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Abraham is already at 50%+ in two markets.


That’s Monroe and Alex. I’d be more worried that Edwards has Shreveport at the moment. Monroe and Alex together probably don’t equal Shreveport. If Abraham can’t carry north Louisiana, he doesn’t have much of a chance IMO.

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Tell me how that's a good thing for an incumbent


Again, I don’t think JBE will win outright in the primary, but it’s likely those undecideds don’t vote at all. Everyone assumes that 32% goes wholly against JBE. But if say 5% of that 32% vote for JBE and only 10% vote for Abraham, and the rest don’t vote, JBE would win the primary. There is a path to winning the primary, I’m just not sure it will happen.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:05 am to
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I’d be more worried that Edwards has Shreveport at the moment. Monroe and Alex together probably don’t equal Shreveport.


Shreveport has the biggest number of undecideds out of them all at 37% with Abraham only 3 points behind Edwards.

Abraham doesn't need to win shreveport, just get at least 35-45% of the vote there.

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but it’s likely those undecideds don’t vote at all.




This was a poll of likely voters and likely households. Do you know what that means?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
34911 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:27 am to
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Another challenge Edwards is facing is explaining why he’s a Democrat in the first place. Louisiana voters are sure to question why Edwards aligns himself with a party with presidential candidates embracing the Green New Deal, supporting Medicaid for all, and infanticide. They may wonder why Edwards supports a party increasingly shifting away from capitalism and toward socialism. “Voters see John Bel as a reflection of national Democrat policies in America, and we have one of the worst economies in the nation, and then they see Ralph Abraham as a representation of Trump and Trump’s economic policies, and he can turn this thing around just like Trump has done on a national level,” said Lionel Rainey, political consultant to Abraham.


This is key; if JBE wants to win another term, he'll have to show independence from Dem Party support for these toxic issues. Especially being Catholic, the infanticide thing. Otherwise, he won't win; Trump will pound him into dust.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:29 am to
Take it for what it's worth, but my wife and I sat out the last election, we won't be sitting this one out.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:32 am to
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Take it for what it's worth, but my wife and I sat out the last election, we won't be sitting this one out.



It's a good reminder that elections have consequences and no matter who you voted for, you have to live with them.

It's why you should vote for the candidate that you feel will best support and advance your interests, not judge it like a popularity contest.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40802 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:39 am to
I really need to pay more attention to Louisiana and my local politics than I do to national shite. I honestly couldn't tell you anything about what's going on in my own state, and the only thing I can tell you about Lafayette is that the charter for deconsolidation is squashed. I know nothing else.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:40 am to
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Shreveport has the biggest number of undecideds out of them all at 37% with Abraham only 3 points behind Edwards.

Abraham doesn't need to win shreveport, just get at least 35-45% of the vote there.


If he can stretch his lead in Monroe and Alexandrea, that 35-45% may work. But at only 50% and 55% where he should have a commanding lead, he may need to inch closer to 45-50% to win.

Serious question; Who are some recent statewide elected officials from North Louisiana? (North being north of Hwy 190) I can’t think of any off the top of my head.
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