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re: The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.

Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Highheat
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:46 pm to
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The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.


True.

Here is the deal as someone that hunts with a 30-06.
1. we don't know the bullet that was used. The 30-06 has all kinds of different weights and designs of bullets, so you can't replicate anything until that is known.

2. Lets go with it was a standard bullet that if most often found. Would I expect that to exit. Absolutely. You might make that shot 50 times and get 50 exits. But bullets do deflect off of bone from time to time. It isn't crazy. It happens.

So while I find it to be not what I would typically expect, I also don't find it so strange to make me throw out all the other evidence that points straight to Tyler.

And lets say some country or group was setting Tyler up to be a patsy. He is there on the roof with the rifle. Why no just let him make the shot?

This is one conspiracy that I don't buy into without SOMETHING more than "that seems strange".
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:48 pm to
So let’s just say I saw the shooting happen the day of, watched it from then on, but haven’t followed since a day or two after they arrested Robinson.

Explain the conspiracy that it wasn’t just Robinson for his tranny whatever since then…?
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:55 pm to
The shot hit is body armor and deflected up into his neck and brain. Never exited. That’s how a 30-06 doesn’t pass all the way through. It hit a blunt object. These people know this. Everyone knows this. This is all BS to get clicks.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:01 pm to
Boosie, I hate these conspiracy weirdos have you and I agreeing on things.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:05 pm to
There were some redneck gun enthusiast types in the few weeks after the shooting saying a 30.06 would have ripped his body apart. But, then that just leads to neverending debates about whether there was some weird deflection or his chest plate is strong or he was wearing body protection or whatever.

Chris Martenson linked in OP usually just comes at things from math/nerd perspective.
quote:

Chris Martenson is out with a terrific video analysis that rebuts many of the false claims circulating on social media about who shot Charlie Kirk. Martenson proves beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not a .30-06 round that took Charlie’s life. I am posting below a video of a dummy composed of ballistic gel and a human skull that is a sickening illustration of the actual power of the .30-06. It also was not a pistol of any kind, especially the alleged palm pistol.

LINK
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:09 pm to
and then the CT motivated reasoning seems to go:

there is some anomalous forensic evidence
warranted CT's have anomalous evidence
ergo, this is a warranted CT featuring the French foreign legion?


(but almost all theories, good and bad have some anomalous evidence)
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 10:15 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84495 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:12 pm to
You and I are just two blind squirrels grabbing their nuts. I think that’s the saying
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:13 pm to
Bullets fail, we don't know the bullet weight. We don't know the bullet type. Was it managed recoil? Was it a low weight bullet? Was it a handload? Did the simulation test at the angle of the shot?

Bullets have an do deflect off of bone. It is not impossible it deflected. Come up with something else more credible.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26309 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:15 pm to
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GROK


Yeah well AI said Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:18 pm to
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Im kind of surprised one of our conspiracy buffs hasnt floated this yet.


I challenged one of them this morning with it because he was claiming that we can't know anything except what the "Deep State" allows us to know.

So my response was, "Then why are you so sure that Kirk was actually shot and killed? How do you know that wasn't an AI fake with AI advanced techniques that haven't been released to the public yet? For that matter, how do you even know Charlie Kirk actually ever existed? Did you ever meet him in person?"

It's pretty easy to show how self-refuting that nonsense is.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 11:19 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:23 pm to
The conspiracy theories on everything that happens is so stupid. I believe they got the right guy and rifle.

This now falls under Conspiracy Fatigue.

Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7067 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:39 pm to
When it hit the vest and bounced off it lost a lot of momentum
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:50 am to
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The projectile is probably more important. Different types for different things. Not all are meant for deep penetration.
Come on people. 30-06 with 180 grain bullet produces about 2500 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards. I hunt white tail in North Alabama with a 30-06. I've never shot a white tail in the chest cavity that the bullet didn't exit the chest cavity. Hit one high and in the spine. Bullet blew right thru the backbone. Shot an antelope in Montana years ago. She was quartering away and up the hill from me. Made a pinky size hole going in and pretty much took the right shoulder off. Shot a mule deer in montana as well, bullet went thru the chest cavity. Pinky size hole going in, index finger sized hole coming out. 30-06 goes thru the soft tissue of the neck like hot knife thru butter. If it hit the spine, it blew thru that as well. Bullet was coming in a downward trajectory. There looked to be a concrete wall at an angle behind Kirk. If Kirk's chair/table were on concrete, the bullet passed thru his neck hit the concrete beneath him at an angle. Ricocheted into the concrete wall behind him and then ricocheted off that and continued on. Likely in a bunch of pieces by that time. If Kirk's chair/table were on grass, then the bullet likely dug in right there.

I'm sure a 30-06 will deflect some when it hits bone, but not enough to stay in the body.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:36 am to
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Come on people. 30-06 with 180 grain bullet


So you know for a fact that's what he used...
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3330 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:39 am to
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So you know for a fact that's what he used...
Nope. Never said that. Simply stating my experience with a 30-06. If your brain processed the information that I typed and concluded that I "know for a fact that's what he used..." you should never ever ever ever EVER ridicule someone else's intelligence again.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:42 am to
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The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.


You sure it's not just the theory with the most figs?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296576 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:42 am to
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Nope. Never said that.


Its exactly what you alluded to.

Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2591 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:47 am to
Sounds like you're not sold on the offical story, not cheering the establishment narrative. How dare you...
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