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re: Thanks For Your Service! Squatters Are Allowed to Occupy Deployed Army Officer's GA Home
Posted on 5/13/23 at 3:27 pm to Townedrunkard
Posted on 5/13/23 at 3:27 pm to Townedrunkard
I don't understand why everyone she knows and another 30 that she hires if needed can't all go squat in that house. The MF can't stay there if it is impossible to ever sleep. And if soome of HIS shite get broken or stolen, oh well.
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 3:51 pm to Rabby
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You have something of a point, but how is law enforcement expected to act in the face of a real or bogus lease agreement? My reading indicates that they tried to verify facts, but could neither verify nor refute.
Check the tax record…whoever owns the house is who they should listen to..ie the legal owner of the property.
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What if the resident actually has a lease, paid the rent and the owner is the one not telling the truth after changing her phone number?
Then they sue the shite out of the landlord and there would be criminal charges for lying to the police. They have a civil complaint.
Any a-hole with a computer can print and forge a lease.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 3:55 pm to NC_Tigah
What are the odds that’s she’s one of the new woke military brass? Black Lt. Colonel, I’d say pretty high.
If she is, she voted for this. Enjoy it queen.
If she is, she voted for this. Enjoy it queen.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:16 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:Perhaps, but I'd not bet on it.
I’m sure she voted for what she got.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:26 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:Is she one of the woke brigade that’s ruining our military?
I know her personally. This is all straight legit. An absolute travesty.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:29 pm to NC_Tigah
Black female lulz. Not a single phuck given.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:34 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:The tax record will only demonstrate a fact which is likely already known while not addressing the relevant issue of whether a valid lease is in place.
Check the tax record…whoever owns the house is who they should listen to..ie the legal owner of the property.
I hope that you are not working for a law enforcement agency as you do not see the lane markers.
This issue is beyond the scope of police duties. They should not use executive powers to pre-empt the judicial processes in a civil dispute.
quote:And as you belatedly point out, it is a civil dispute. This needs to be settled in a court where all facts can be considered by a judge. Someone is lying and that is likely a criminal offense. But figuring out which one is right and which is wrong is beyond the scope of a patrolman on a call.
They have a civil complaint.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:35 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:Lt. Colonel in the Nursing Corps (or nursing corpse, if you're Obama) is really just a matter of time served. Things may be different now, but the USAF was race-blind (and sexuality blind) when I served.
What are the odds that’s she’s one of the new woke military brass? Black Lt. Colonel...
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:39 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:42 pm to NC_Tigah
My .357 says he will be out in 30 minutes.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 4:44 pm to Rabby
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I hope that you are not working for a law enforcement agency as you do not see the lane markers. This issue is beyond the scope of police duties. They should not use executive powers to pre-empt the judicial processes in a civil dispute.
If I return from deployment and somebody is in my house and I call the cops….it’s definitely a criminal matter. This is my house (provable) and this MF’er broke in, is criminally trespassing and I’m the owner. Full stop.
Why does some piece of paper have any more weight than what the owner is telling you or than a BE criminal saying…”no, this is my house and the guy in the PJ’s broke in on me”. Or a car thief saying “no he let me drive it”?
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And as you belatedly point out, it is a civil dispute. This needs to be settled in a court where all facts can be considered by a judge
No. The civil dispute is if the lease was real and owner has you thrown out alleging you broke in. Until then you act based on what the property owner is telling you…which is somebody broke into your house and is criminally trespassing.
If somebody steals your car and then claims it’s theirs, is that a crime or civil dispute?
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't understand why you don't understand. They create a false rental agreement which has to go through the courts.
What he’s saying is this shouldn’t be a civil matter, it should be a criminal matter. Creating a false rental agreement to occupy someone else’s property should be illegal and the police should have the authority to forcibly remove the person who did so.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:03 pm to bopper50
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My .357 says he will be out...
Which raises questions for our legal-types, if you return to your residence, and someone is inside, can you shoot them if they are deemed threatening?
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:04 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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What he’s saying is this shouldn’t be a civil matter, it should be a criminal matter. Creating a false rental agreement to occupy someone else’s property should be illegal and the police should have the authority to forcibly remove the person who did so.
In addition…what I’m saying is that if I own the property and I’m saying a person is there illegally then whatever BS they produce shouldn’t matter at that time. I own the property and I’m telling LE the person is there illegally. Arrest the MFer and if I’m lying I’ll be in deep shite.
If it turns out that they got scammed by some third party that leased a house they didn’t own, well that’s tough shite but not my problem.
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:08 pm to riverdiver
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Go ahead and post your address.
His mom would not be happy ... are you going to squat in her basement?
Under hanks theory, I create a lease for the publix and squat there and they have to file a civil suit to remove me??? Meanwhile I live there and eat all the food???
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:12 pm to Rabby
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We cannot permit and do not want police to dispense curbside justice when they are not sure of the facts from opposing parties.
BS
You don’t think law enforcement can easily ascertain who’s the owner of the home? Determine who owns the home then remove the person who’s squatting. If the squatter does in fact have a legitimate lease agreement, then he can sue the property owner. Deference should always be given to the property owner and the burden of proof should be on the squatter.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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Which raises questions for our legal-types, if you return to your residence, and someone is inside, can you shoot them if they are deemed threatening?
Check what I wrote 4 pages back. Go in, tell them you are going to bed, say you will "wake up in 5 minutes and if they are there you will shoot them for breaking into your home and attacking you. Have two other military friends there to confirm the story. Home free.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:14 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Deference should always be given to the property owner and the burden of proof should be on the squatter.
Thank you.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 5:16 pm to dafif
As an aside on all this bs... she had a sellers agreement with an agent and an offer on the house. How many frickin emails does she have to show the cops to get that point across???? Text messages? Frickin criminal fraud not addressed by our police. Yeah this is not civil its criminal
Posted on 5/13/23 at 6:20 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:I would not know. When I was commissioned in 1991 it was understood among officers that we do not discuss politics.
Is she one of the woke brigade that’s ruining our military?
Ever.
How times have changed.
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