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Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:10 pm to EKG
Texas needs to annex Louisiana. Please??
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:17 pm to EKG
Dog and pony show with no bite or kick
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:21 pm to 31TIGERS
Yes please! Can you take Mississippi too?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:23 pm to cubsfan5150
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cubsfan5150
shite up, you limp wristed liberal twat waffle.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:28 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
y'all realize y'all can get the frick out of these united states at any time, right?
shag your arse ...
shag your arse ...
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:31 pm to 31TIGERS
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shite up, you limp wristed liberal twat waffle.
Not a liberal and I thought conservatives respected the constitution and Supreme Court rulings. You must be on of those that talks and doesn’t read.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:32 pm to LSU2ALA
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So you are the perfect one to address some of my questions. I genuinely curious how you unravel hundreds of years of cohabitation between state and federal and I joint programs (Medicaid being a biggy).
Here’s the thing. They never have an answer to that question. They also don’t answer why the federal government will agree. They won’t. This will not happen. There is no scenario in which the federal government passively lets Texas leave. Won’t happen.
That's all things that can be negotiated like any trade and defense agreement. It will be complicated for sure but there is a lot of mutual benefit involved.
In terms of legality the reality is if Texas has a free vote to leave the amount of pressure to let it go will be immense from every angle. I mean Quebec and Scotland both came within a hair of voting independence not long ago and the concept that a US State could do so and NOT be able to leave just wouldn't fly. Sure you can look at the SC case after the Civil War but that was decided on very shaky ground by a SC that had no representation from the South. The 9th and 10th Amendments are pretty clear that States should have that right by any sane reading of them.
I'm a native Texan. However when I graduated from High School there were fewer than 17 million people in Texas. Now there are about 30 million and growing. You have so much intersection of who is and who isn't a Texan. That's going to be a mess.
That's why a referendum is a good start. The best case is Texas has the vote, it gets more support than expected and it scares DC straight so they start to make reforms to move back to a better form of Federalism closer to the original intent of the Constitution. If not we just keep moving closer to separation.
Inevitably the only way a heterogeneous country like ours can only work with Federalism or through tyranny. As it stands we are caught in between and that's not going to work long term. Something has to give.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:33 pm to 31TIGERS
quote:
Texas needs to annex Louisiana. Please??
Doubtful, but we will definitely make a trade agreement for gumbo.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:37 am to LSU2ALA
The federal government debt is $34 trillion.
Trillion.
At some point it will all collapse. It is inevitable.
Regardless of where you live you better stop preparing. Your nanny government wont be around much longer.
It looks to me like Texas is making prudent preparations while other states keep their heads buried in the sand.
Trillion.
At some point it will all collapse. It is inevitable.
Regardless of where you live you better stop preparing. Your nanny government wont be around much longer.
It looks to me like Texas is making prudent preparations while other states keep their heads buried in the sand.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:34 am to EKG
So you’re leaving the SEC and we won’t see Texas either. Sounds good.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 2:55 am to EKG
How much gold does Texas have?
The reason I ask is that once succession happens, Texas will have their own currency. I'm guessing it'll be backed by gold. If that's the case, untangling from the US Federal Govt wouldn't be difficult at all. Mexico would continue buying O&G from Texas. So would other countries in Central and South America. Farming wouldn't be a problem. Water, not a problem.
The problem with imagining the difficulties that would come with succession is due to the slave mentality to the way things are done in the US now. It's hard to imagine not being regulated by a govt that actively works against its citizens in almost every aspect of governance. It would be a blank slate. Texas could do anything they wanted. They could sell bonds to people to finance the govt. They could implement a system without a central bank.
As far as Medicaid and other welfare systems go, why have them? The US flourished for a long time without these programs. Without a central bank, insurance companies, or income tax as well. Texas need look no further than the US prior to 1913 in order to not only survive, but outpace the leftover US.
Would people be pissed off for not getting their Social Security after paying in? Maybe, but there would be no law forbidding people from leaving in order to receive their benefits. There's the door. Founding a nation comes with a price. frick Social Security, WIC, SNAP, and all the other welfare programs. Work, or don't eat. If that sounds like something you don't want to help build, kick rocks and GTFO.
The reason I ask is that once succession happens, Texas will have their own currency. I'm guessing it'll be backed by gold. If that's the case, untangling from the US Federal Govt wouldn't be difficult at all. Mexico would continue buying O&G from Texas. So would other countries in Central and South America. Farming wouldn't be a problem. Water, not a problem.
The problem with imagining the difficulties that would come with succession is due to the slave mentality to the way things are done in the US now. It's hard to imagine not being regulated by a govt that actively works against its citizens in almost every aspect of governance. It would be a blank slate. Texas could do anything they wanted. They could sell bonds to people to finance the govt. They could implement a system without a central bank.
As far as Medicaid and other welfare systems go, why have them? The US flourished for a long time without these programs. Without a central bank, insurance companies, or income tax as well. Texas need look no further than the US prior to 1913 in order to not only survive, but outpace the leftover US.
Would people be pissed off for not getting their Social Security after paying in? Maybe, but there would be no law forbidding people from leaving in order to receive their benefits. There's the door. Founding a nation comes with a price. frick Social Security, WIC, SNAP, and all the other welfare programs. Work, or don't eat. If that sounds like something you don't want to help build, kick rocks and GTFO.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 3:17 am
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:04 am to EKG
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This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:18 am to BeepNode
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Texas will be a blue state in 10 years, anyway
They've been saying this shite for 30+ years.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 3:19 am
Posted on 12/2/23 at 4:03 am to Diamondawg
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So Texas is prepared to take over for air traffic controllers and TSA to keep your busy airports open. Prepared to purchase all of the VA hospitals and pay for the care of veterans?
All legitimate concerns, but the 8th largest economy in the world might could figure it out. I'm thinking it'd be addition by subtraction.
I too would like to see their plan.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 5:00 am to deltaland
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There was a time when Henry VIII couldn't divorce his wives either.
Totally relevant comparison
The Catholic Church back then formed basically a de facto Empire in Europe, with the amount of power they wielded over the daily lives of all denizens in their realms of influence. Henry VIII telling the Church to frick off was a pretty big deal in those times.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 5:05 am to Stealth Matrix
Galveston can be the new Fort Sumter.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:49 am to EKG
Bet Texas will need FEMA when the next hurricane hits ROFL
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:51 am to EKG
"Texit" is amazing. Please, PLEASE try doing that and see what happens.
Go ask the Brits across the pond how it's working out for them
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:00 am to bayouboo
quote:The poster makes a valid point. This massive federal border enforcement mechanism is doing wonders stopping the influx of illegals.
Would be interesting to see how long Texas could last with all roads and air travel blocked off to the U.S.
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