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re: Texas GOP rejects Log Cabin Republicans

Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:50 am to
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:50 am to
Yikes... not a good look
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:50 am to
Gay republicans are fine, but there is no such thing as a Trans Republican. Don’t fall for the lies.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:54 am to
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in America? we are not supposed to make policy based on religion.
We can make any policy we want made for any reason we want so long as it doesn't violate constitutional rights. We're talking about motive here, and the religious aren't supposed to be excluded from public discourse simply because they are religious.

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also, religion isn't really a rational or objective analysis system, so purely by the methodology used it's a bad way to do business. you also open the door for all sorts of other religions to do the same and that's chaos
I beg to differ. Perhaps "religion" generally isn't, but I believe that only the biblical worldview can provide a basis for intelligibility in all areas of life. You have no objectivity in secular relativism, which is what we have in our society today.

Atheism provides no rational basis for discourse or truth and secularism is practical atheism.

That said, all arguments and policies should be up for debate and no arguments should be excluded simply because people want to be bigoted (see how that word can be reversed?) against the religious.
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
909 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:55 am to
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*who cares what bathroom they use??? Golly!..I don't know..maybe the other people using the bathroom??*


Log Cabin Republicans aren't pushing trannies in the lockerroom.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:34 pm to
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sure, but i can do that without it being based purely in religious beliefs and give objective reasons why it's bad



No, you can’t. “Bad” is a value judgement; it’s inherently subjective.

Everybody, you included, wants laws based on their values. Your values are not somehow more valid because they aren’t described by you as “religious”.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:37 pm to
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This thread is about precluding one group from having effective input in the debate ABOUT the party platform, by denying them a place to present their views on the premises of the convention.


Since there is apparently some sort of application process, this is undoubtedly not the first group to be denied. What’s special here? Am I wrong; has every group who’s ever asked been given space to push their views?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:39 pm to
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Since there is apparently some sort of application process, this is undoubtedly not the first group to be denied. What’s special here? Am I wrong; has every group who’s ever asked been given space to push their views?
The fact that it was publicized?

I can speak for no one else, I would ask exactly the same questions regarding the exclusion of any other group of Republican voters.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:48 pm to
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No I'd call it some brave stance by some liberal ****s that are trying to destroy conservatism.


ok boomer
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:50 pm to
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How fricking stupid. The loon evangelical wing of the GOP will always be there to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


They are our cross to bare. :sigh:
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:56 pm to
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The fact that it was publicized?


You could have just admitted that you don’t know the answer to my question. I doubt just anybody who claims to be a Republican is given floor space and I doubt this is the first group that’s been turned down. You may believe that any belief under the sun merits a venue, but I suspect that’s a minority opinion.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14778 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:19 pm to
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and if you read the Bible, it won’t take long for you to find where it says homosexuality and perversion of ones body is an abomination to God


So you support the GOP outlawing divorce?
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:21 pm to
Stand for what is right! Truth and light will always prevail over evil and darkness!!
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46801 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:39 pm to
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So you support the GOP outlawing divorce?
I would be in support of banning no-fault divorce.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14778 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:47 pm to
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I would be in support of banning no-fault divorce.



How wonderfully small government of you.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:54 pm to
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So you support the GOP outlawing divorce?


This makes no sense.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46801 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:00 pm to
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How wonderfully small government of you.
Can you please provide your definition of small government? Are you talking about the size (number of agencies, employees, etc.) or the scope (number of laws, impact of laws, etc.) or both? Please let me know where the threshold is from small to big government while you're at it.

No-fault divorce wasn't even allowed by law in the US until the 1970's (starting with Reagan in California, actually).
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14778 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:07 pm to
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This makes no sense.


Divorce and homosexuality are abominations to God, but the evangelicals only care about the latter because 40% are divorced already.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14778 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Can you please provide your definition of small government?


Supporting more government intrusion by restricting divorces is not conservative or small government. It's just evangelical bullshite.

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(starting with Reagan in California, actually).


An actual conservative.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:21 pm to
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Divorce and homosexuality are abominations to God, but the evangelicals only care about the latter because 40% are divorced already.


You mentioned "outlawing divorce", when no one had advocated making either against the law.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:21 pm to
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It's just evangelical bullshite.


According to Wikipedia NY was the last state to allow no-fault divorce, changing their laws in 2010. I had no idea the evangelicals had such a stranglehold on NY.

Your slip is showing, but you’ve got plenty of company.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 2:24 pm
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