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re: Texas getting it's own Sharia Law

Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28491 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:06 pm to
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Or there could have been two Herod the Greats or two Quiriniuses or lots of other things are possible to reconcile that “apparent contradiction”.


Yeah, the evil twin twist. Just like in the soap operas my mom watches!

Checkmate you non-believing heathens!
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3895 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:34 pm to
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Checkmate you non-believing heathens!

Well actually that’s not entirely correct. You see, God has shown himself and his wonders to everyone, and they just want to suppress their belief in God so that they can sin and do whatever they want. God has shown himself to everyone and so the unrighteous are without excuse. They really do believe in Jesus but they just don’t want to accept eternal life. The way we can be sure about all of this is just to read it in the Bible, because that’s what it says and we know it is the truth because it says it is.
Posted by AUTigerking
Member since Jun 2020
666 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:49 pm to
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Well actually that’s not entirely correct. You see, God has shown himself and his wonders to everyone, and they just want to suppress their belief in God so that they can sin and do whatever they want. God has shown himself to everyone and so the unrighteous are without excuse. They really do believe in Jesus but they just don’t want to accept eternal life. The way we can be sure about all of this is just to read it in the Bible, because that’s what it says and we know it is the truth because it says it is.


Mocking the simplest version of Christianity. Tells us all we need to know! You’ll grow up one day
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2207 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:29 pm to
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Leave the discussion to Foo, you don't have the mental hardware for this conversation
I tell you what, how about you ask Foo if I can hang
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2207 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:41 pm to
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My belief is that it has just always been there in one form or another
This is just so silly and misinformed. Aside from actual infinites being impossible for multiple reasons, how can something of material substance that's beholden to causality exist before causality existed? It makes absolutely no sense. Cause and effect came into being with this universe. If you say that's not true, then you're just kicking the can down the road (colliding branes, cosmic inflation, vacuum fluctuation, etc) or you're back to actual infinites which can't exist. How can cause and effect exist when there is no universe for it to exist in?

If you say the universe came into being from something that's not a material substance then you're making the case for God because you're saying the "stuff" wasn't of the physical universe but the metaphysical/supernatural and you're not going to be able to distinguish that from God without special pleading.

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A never-ending cycle of contracting, exploding and expanding
And skeptics scoff at the idea of God. Look at this desperate fan fiction. Why don't you just say you'll believe ANYTHING as long as it's not God?

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Where did that supernatural being come from?
Sigh. God is not a contingent being. God is a necessary being. Asking where did God come from is like asking what does funny taste like. In philosophy, that's called a category mistake. You are trying to apply material/physical cause and effect to a being that is beyond the material/physical world. Cause and effect does not apply to God because he's SUPERnatural.

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There is just no need for that component
This is what philosophical ignorance looks like.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2207 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:46 pm to
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Their citizens weren't being counted for taxation purposes is what I was getting at
Aside from the fact that you can't prove that, you are on the wrong side of history. The idea that a vassal state wasn't paying Rome is ludicrous. And how are taxes assessed? Take a guess.

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there are no historical records of a Roman census happening in Judea prior to the 6AD census
This is still false and I explained this thoroughly. But feel free to keep repeating it.

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there are no records of a census requiring you to travel to your place of birth to be counted
This is also false, the Bible records one. And this brings up the moving goalposts that biblical skeptics consistently employ.

There is no record of X
X is discovered
There is no record of Y
Y gets discovered
There is no record of Z
Z gets discovered

At this point, skeptics are painted into a corner and they just say "God is stupid"

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Thats not how censuses work
Prove it. You have no proof. This is total, complete conjuecture on your part and it's just more desperate God-hating

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tiny hook
Except the Bible has been repeatedly vindicated historically. It's not tiny at all. That's just in your tiny brain
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2207 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:48 pm to
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You need to come up with a Roman census of Judea prior to Herod the Great's death
I already explained this to you thoroughly. You responded to none of it. Go figure
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2207 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:50 pm to
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I think I leaned enough on this forum to emulate a typical low-iq religious internet tough guy
Says the wuss who won't answer questions when you get punched in the mouth like the sissy you are.

You have nothing. You are as big of a fraud as SFP is
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2207 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:53 pm to
Hey Squirrel, does God exist or not



You won't touch that one, will you.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1831 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:12 pm to
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why did one of the sprinkler heads on my Clearstream septic system suddenly stop working

Should be simple enough. Probably a clogged nozzle, or a bad solenoid. (provided your sprinkler valves are electric).

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and can I identify the cause and resolve the issue without seeking professional help? (I think I can figure it out for myself)

I have faith in you.

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No evidential support?

No. Proponents of the theory take the evidence for the big bang (CMBR, Hubble’s law) which shows that the universe is expanding, and arbitrarily assume the contraction. Theoretical models suggest that if the universe's density exceeds a certain threshold, gravitational forces could reverse the expansion, leading to a contraction phase.

Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. But it gets worse for the theory. In addition to the fact that the theory has no mechanism to offset entropy- which pretty much kills the idea of infinite cycles of expansion/contraction on its own, now we know we’ve got dark energy causing the universe expansion to accelerate- indicating only that the universe will continue to expand, indefinitely, with no good reason to expect it to slam on the brakes and throw it in reverse.

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Pretty much all astronomers agree that the universe is expanding

That’s not in dispute. There’s no need to answer questions I didn’t ask. Especially when not answering the ones I am asking. Now, show me one that currently supports oscillating universe theory over the big bang theory. Anyone.

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The god hypothesis is a simplistic answer.

Also you:
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The presence of a supernatural being just adds to the complexity.

Which is it? I’m not trying to be mean, but you keep contradicting yourself.

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you have to ask, where did that god come from?

Please, at least read and understand the kalam cosmological argument and the unmoved mover. Or just one of them. Either one, once understood, will answer that question for you. I’d be happy to go through it with you if you want.

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I have a problem with the concept of supernatural entities of any kind, regardless of which religion is pushing it,

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I don't believe in gods, angels, devils, demons, ghosts, spirit animals, witches, warlocks, wizards, elves, and on and on.

But you’re certain of the principle of uncertainty, convinced by the oscillating universe theory, claim “there are no facts. That is a fact.” All of which you take on faith- the same thing you mock the Christian for. What about aliens? Do you believe they exist?



Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28491 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 12:26 am to
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Aside from the fact that you can't prove that, you are on the wrong side of history. The idea that a vassal state wasn't paying Rome is ludicrous. And how are taxes assessed? Take a guess.


They weren't paying taxes, if they were they wouldn't need a census in 6 AD dummy.

This is the lack of mental hardware I spoke of.

They paid Rome a tribute that was not based on a citizen count.

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This is also false, the Bible records one


The Bible is in question here you tard. You're just begging the question now.

You're the low IQ version of Foo. I really hate how you frickers feel like you have to quote respond to every sentence typed. It's very tiring and details the conversation quite quickly.

You even quote responded to my tiny hook phrase. Holy shite man.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
3076 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:00 am to
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But you’re certain of the principle of uncertainty, convinced by the oscillating universe theory, claim “there are no facts. That is a fact.” All of which you take on faith- the same thing you mock the Christian for. What about aliens? Do you believe they exist?


I used the uncertainty principal as an analogy. I know it is not settled science, just like the Big Bang is not settled science, and the oscillating universe is not settled science. They are just logical theories proposed by really smart people who know their physics and astronomy, that are not reliant upon the existence of a supernatural creator.

Sorry if you feel like I mocked your Christian views. That was not my intent. You are entitled to them. I just choose not to believe them or those of any other religion. I don't go out of my way to argue about religion or ridicule anyone for theirs.

Aliens - do I believe there is life elsewhere in the universe?

I believe the possibility is high that there has been, is, or will be in the future.

But the universe is vast. The possibility that other intelligent life exists close enough to Earth that we will ever be able to detect its presence or encounter it is extremely remote.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52557 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 7:50 am to
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When I saw Comrade "Bryon"
can't even spell my name right. Don't worry once we have that Marxist free education you can take some adult literacy classes.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99100 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 7:55 am to
Imagine admitting you are a kommie

That used to be the worst thing to be called when liberal men like yourself had some Testosterone

Now its a badge of honor for you betas
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1831 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:01 pm to
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I used the uncertainty principal as an analogy. I know it is not settled science, just like the Big Bang is not settled science, and the oscillating universe is not settled science

The point is that you accept these theories on faith.

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They are just logical theories proposed by really smart people who know their physics and astronomy

And you trust (more faith) these really smart people because…

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that are not reliant upon the existence of a supernatural creator.

That is your prerequisite. There are logical theories put forth by Christians who really know their astronomy and astrophysics. But they don’t meet your third (first) requirement.

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Sorry if you feel like I mocked your Christian views. That was not my intent.

Nah. I honestly didn’t mean it as though you were personally attacking me or anyone else. I meant “you” in a general sense, as in your worldview. The comment was intended to highlight how atheists and Christians both have and exercise faith; the only difference is where it’s placed. I find you to be very respectful. And I hope to reciprocate that.

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I just choose not to believe them


That’s a refreshing admission. That’s all I wanted to hear you say. I’d like you to tell me why- what is your reason?

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Aliens - do I believe there is life elsewhere in the universe? I believe the possibility is high that there has been, is, or will be in the future.

This is another great example. You’re open to the possibility of extraterrestrial life, but closed to the possibility that God exists. But there’s far more evidence for Jesus Christ than there is for aliens. You said it best: “I choose not to believe.”


Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
3076 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:50 pm to
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This is another great example. You’re open to the possibility of extraterrestrial life, but closed to the possibility that God exists. But there’s far more evidence for Jesus Christ than there is for aliens. You said it best: “I choose not to believe.”


There is evidence that a religious teacher of some sort existed 2000 years ago in the area of Judea that developed a cult following that continues to exist. There is no evidence that I've ever been shown that convinces me that he was a supernatural being.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1831 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:08 pm to
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There is no evidence that I've ever been shown that convinces me that he was a supernatural being.

So now it’s about evidence again? is written testimony not enough for you? Do you see what you are doing? You have a double standard. On one hand, you accept things like oscillating universe theory, and the existence of aliens, on faith, without evidence. on the other, you reject Christianity; citing lack of evidence as the reasoning, giving the impression of plausible deniability rather than an independent choice to apply a different standard to Christianity. If you applied the same level of skepticism to everything else that you apply to Christianity, you would believe nothing.

So, we’ve established that evidence (or lack thereof) is not the primary concern in building your worldview. Why then, are aliens highly probable, but God is impossible?

Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
3076 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:26 pm to
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is written testimony not enough for you?


Regarding the performance of miracles or the resurrection of a dead person?

Absolutely not. That requires a whole lot more than just "written testimony" to satisfy me.

Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1831 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:32 pm to
Why does that require more evidence than oscillating universe theory or aliens?

Better yet, what evidence would convince you?
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
3076 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:49 pm to
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Why does that require more evidence than oscillating universe theory or aliens?

Better yet, what evidence would convince you?


I'm not "convinced" of anything, and I'm not actively looking for evidence of anything. If evidence presents itself, I'll consider it.

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