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Test: Do you know what % of popular vote Lincoln got in 1860?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:45 am
39.8%
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:47 am to tigerdude12
Lincoln won in an electoral landslide
Greatest President
Greatest President
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:47 am to tigerdude12
This electoral college conversation is stupid. Makes me want to punch someone.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:49 am to Aubie Spr96
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Makes me want to punch someone.
Start with Token
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:49 am to tigerdude12
He also won the majority of the electoral votes. What’s the point here?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:50 am to Jyrdis
I thought it was a little less than that but people don't get we are a republic
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:53 am to TOKEN
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Greatest President
I'll go with Washington.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:56 am to tigerdude12
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39.8%
Uh, most of the South didn't even put him on the fricking ballot.
So those numbers don't mean shite.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:57 am to Homesick Tiger
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I'll go with Washington.
Oh he’s up there
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:59 am to tigerdude12
Know your audience, bro. This board hates Lincoln. That said, I did not know it was that low.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:02 pm to TOKEN
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Greatest President
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:08 pm to tigerdude12
Thank God he was President.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:11 pm to Homesick Tiger
Ole Rudy Hayes is always a little underrated too
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:11 pm to tigerdude12
You have to take that # in proper context. As stated, the South removed him from the ballots. He only because the Democrats couldn't pick one candidate. To be fair, the issue of slavery was at the heart of it.
The real problem was that the Democratic party was split between two candidates. A northern Democrat who took a (at the time) neutral stance on slavery and a Southern Democrat who was pro slavery. At that point in history, it was becoming apparent that the free state/ slave state divide left the South with little room to expand.
If you look at a land fertility chart, it becomes clear that as you move beyond Texas, the land isnt very good for growing cash crops (ie expanding slavery). There was even an idea to split California into a free and slave state. But that failed and they choose to be a free state.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:12 pm to tigerdude12
Tell a liberal that if it weren't for the electoral college we'd still have slavery and watch their head spin
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:23 pm to volod
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He only because the Democrats couldn't pick one candidate.
They did pick one candidate. Mr. Stephen Douglas. The problem was that the Southern states didn't want him, so they had their own convention and selected John C. Breckenridge.
Even if you add Breckenridge and Douglas together, Lincoln still wins handily.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:23 pm to tigerdude12
quote:I'm proud of myself. Guessed 40% before I opened the thread. With four candidates, getting 40% was pretty decent, especially since he wasn't even on the ballot in many Southern States.
39.8%
In 1860 I probably would have voted for John Bell and preservation of the Union. By 1864 I would have voted for Lincoln. I suppose if I had been an abolitionist in 1860, I would have voted for Lincoln.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:28 pm to BigAppleBucky
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In 1860 I probably would have voted for John Bell and preservation of the Union. By 1864 I would have voted for Lincoln. I suppose if I had been an abolitionist in 1860, I would have voted for Lincoln.
Most former Know Nothings sided with Lincoln. The Constitutional Unionists were pretty controversial and would be a hate group today.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:31 pm to tigerdude12
The abolish the electoral college movement is beyond stupid and should be admonished at every turn. But this thread does nothing to support that reality, since Lincoln still won the popular vote in 1860. Pretty easy for libs with the slightest awareness of history to throw that back in your face, so it’s a real bad example.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:35 pm to therick711
quote:My 50+ year old memory from my history class in high school, my recollection of the Constitutional Unionists was that their main platform was to preserve the Union.
The Constitutional Unionists were pretty controversial and would be a hate group today.
From Wikipedia:
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The Constitutional Union Party was a political party in the United States created in 1860 which ran against the Republicans and Democrats as a fourth party in 1860. It was made up of conservative former Whigs who wanted to avoid secession over the slavery issue.
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