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re: Tariffs are Taxes and Increase Prices for Consumers
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:58 am to alphaandomega
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:58 am to alphaandomega
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If a tariff makes imported goods more expensive, maybe someone in the US will start making that product.
If there were some long term plan to keep those tariffs in place possibly
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Especially for things that we really need. Steel, microchips, antibiotics, etc.
Yes. You could argue that there are other ways to achieve this beyond tariffs but we should definitely be producing as much critical infrastructure here as we can.
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:00 am to GumboPot
I DEFINITELY have no problem with that.
Anecdotally, I was building a Publix shopping center north of Atlanta in 2003. Our steel erector was unable to get the structural steel columns and beams delivered on schedule due to China having the market on steel cornered at the time as they had been buying up enormous amounts of US scrap metal. The problem eventually worked itself out, but there's nothing to prevent it from happening again as far as I know.
Anecdotally, I was building a Publix shopping center north of Atlanta in 2003. Our steel erector was unable to get the structural steel columns and beams delivered on schedule due to China having the market on steel cornered at the time as they had been buying up enormous amounts of US scrap metal. The problem eventually worked itself out, but there's nothing to prevent it from happening again as far as I know.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:39 am to Aubie Spr96
I wish I could understand why the tariffs perplex some people. Trump has been clear about them from the beginning. Their major goal is to repatriate business, particularly manufacturing because it is better for the US in the long run. He was clear that there would be bumps along the way because everyone has to buy in, particularly businesses. So far, the plan has been achieving its stated goal.
Whenever I see someone complaining about "tax on citizens" they never seem to mention the prodigious revenue the tariffs are bringing in. Why is that?
Whenever I see someone complaining about "tax on citizens" they never seem to mention the prodigious revenue the tariffs are bringing in. Why is that?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:46 am to Aubie Spr96
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Tariffs are Taxes and Increase Prices for Consumers
No they are not.
I can choose not to pay for imported items that I decide they are to costly for my budget or find less expensive options.
I can not choose to not pay taxes legally in the USA.
You people are so melodramatic.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:46 am to KingOrange
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We used to run the Country with only Tariffs.
I'm okay with that to a point if tariffs collected go to reduce debt and income taxes. We definitely need to foster domestic production as long as it is based on strong internal competition and not just fat and lazy protectionism.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:50 am to Aubie Spr96
If tarriffs were taxes all the commie prog democrats would be in favor of them and have been using them for the last 50 years .
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:51 am to Robin Masters
They're against them because they're a regressive tax
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:58 am to Powerman
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They're against them because they're a regressive tax
Oh bullshite. They moan endlessly about corporate taxes which according to Dems should have the same impact as tariffs.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:16 am to Powerman
quote:Then why did the Biden administration largely keep Trump's previous tarrifs in place? When the rubber meets the road, the dems are not as "against" them as you're making them out to be. Their histrionics are performative and TDS but the money from his policy? Oh, we'll keep that going
They're against them because they're a regressive tax
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:17 am to BigPerm30
quote:ah. Got it. They have very cheap labor.
Tariffs don’t have the same outcome in the US vs internationally
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:18 am to wallowinit
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That’s a small price to pay to keep the rest of the world from leaching off of me.
Much of the money collected is given to other countries.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:19 am to somethingdifferent
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Then why did the Biden administration largely keep Trump's previous tarrifs in place? When the rubber meets the road, the dems are not as "against" them as you're making them out to be. Their histrionics are performative and TDS but the money from his policy? Oh, we'll keep that going
Maybe for the same reason Bernie Sanders and Jon Stewart were recently praising Trump.
These are all socialist policies at heart.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:21 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:The devil is always in the details.
So far, the evidence shows that tariffs have raised overall retail prices by about 4.9 percentage points relative to the pre-tariff trend—a number that, while modest compared to some of the tariff rate increases
Obviously tariffs have an effect.
The problem with this study is there is no effort whatsoever to account for underlying inflation as an input to tariffed sectors. Further it appears to compare apples and oranges in terms of "affected" or "unaffected" categories.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:31 am to 3down10
quote:Well look who it is. You still think you're not an infidel and if you just leave the Muslims alone, they'll leave you alone? lol
3down10
quote:No, powerloser said they're against them, not for them
Maybe for the same reason Bernie Sanders and Jon Stewart were recently praising Trump.
quote:The tarrifs are absolutely not socialist in and of themselves. When the purpose is to foster commerce in the private sector, that's decidedly NOT socialist. If they were being used to advance govt ownership of things, that would be more like socialism.
These are all socialist policies at heart
These tarrifs are seriously triggering mentally ill people. It's amazing to see
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:31 am to GumboPot
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They do not want to rely on China for material to make ships, tanks, planes and munitions as we have to potentially fight China in a war, directly or by proxy.
Same is true for pharma as well. 90+ % of blood pressure medicine and other critical daily meds millions of Americans take are produced in China.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:33 am to Aubie Spr96
Prices are increasing again thanks to tariffs.
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When do the jobs start coming back? Jobs reports are so piss poor that Trumper had to fire the BLS chief to hide how bad things are getting.
The deal was that raises and better jobs coming back to America would offset the increase in consumer prices, aka the tax on the American people from the Trump admin. We aren’t see any good paying jobs coming back in meaningful numbers. It’s been 9 months. Hope Trump has a plan before next year.
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When do the jobs start coming back? Jobs reports are so piss poor that Trumper had to fire the BLS chief to hide how bad things are getting.
The deal was that raises and better jobs coming back to America would offset the increase in consumer prices, aka the tax on the American people from the Trump admin. We aren’t see any good paying jobs coming back in meaningful numbers. It’s been 9 months. Hope Trump has a plan before next year.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:35 am to somethingdifferent
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Well look who it is. You still think you're not an infidel and if you just leave the Muslims alone, they'll leave you alone? lol
I know and understand things you couldn't begin to imagine.
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No, powerloser said they're against them, not for them
You got an English version?
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The tarrifs are absolutely not socialist in and of themselves. When the purpose is to foster commerce in the private sector, that's decidedly NOT socialist. If they were being used to advance govt ownership of things, that would be more like socialism.
These tarrifs are seriously triggering mentally ill people. It's amazing to see
They are more taxes. If we were going back pre-1913 where the government basically ran off tariffs, that'd be great. Instead it's just an additional tax on a population that's already extremely over-taxed.
And yes, Trump has bought government ownership in private companies. That's specifically what they were praising. How that is funded will obviously be a combination of all government revenue.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 11:36 am
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:36 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:No prob. No EBT
Eight months into President Trump’s latest trade war, it’s worth examining how tariffs are affecting consumers. So far, the evidence shows that tariffs have raised overall retail prices by about 4.9 percentage points relative to the pre-tariff trend—a number that, while modest compared to some of the tariff rate
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:37 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:there is a lot of really stupid people who post here who will not understand a word you say.
Eight months into President Trump’s latest trade war, it’s worth examining how tariffs are affecting consumers. So far, the evidence shows that tariffs have raised overall retail prices by about 4.9 percentage points relative to the pre-tariff trend
They've been told numerous times and still bury their heads.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:37 am to Snipe
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No they are not.
I can choose not to pay for imported items that I decide they are to costly for my budget or find less expensive options.
I can not choose to not pay taxes legally in the USA.
You people are so melodramatic.
You're still paying more than you would otherwise, aka a price increase.
That said, if it was an option of tariffs or income taxes etc, then tariffs are obviously superior. However, if we aren't getting rid of other taxes, then it's just a tax increase.
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