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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:16 pm to
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Trump acknowledges costs could be passed on to consumers.

Yeah no shite. American importers will pay the tarrifs on the imports and then pass that on or take a hit to margin....
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35139 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:19 pm to
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Yeah no shite. American importers will pay the tarrifs on the imports and then pass that on or take a hit to margin....


Ooooh . I’d love to hear your hot take on the need to raise corporate taxes then!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36071 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:23 pm to
If this were Biden doing the same thing, the howls from this board and the MAGA nation would be deafening.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:25 pm to
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If this were Biden doing the same thing, the howls from this board and the MAGA nation would be deafening.


You want me to pull a post from the other day of me saying that however much I love Trump prices aren’t going down? Just STFU loser
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23370 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:29 pm to
Canada and Mexico will cave.....they are in no position to do anything else.

TRUMP knows EXACTLY what he is doing!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:32 pm to
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Everyone focuses on avocados (to my amusement) but the reality is a lot more than that


Muh avocados! I guess some people think cars and trucks are too cheap these days.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:32 pm to
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Ooooh . I’d love to hear your hot take on the need to raise corporate taxes then!

I don't think you have to touch the corporate tax rate to fix the budget. You just have to quit giving away so much pork to corporate America....we allow corporations to socialize their losses but the profit is kept in their pocket. Let losers be losers and stop building business on government subsidies.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10782 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:52 pm to
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1) Spurs domestic production.


Which will make products more expensive for American consumers. How is that good for the economy?

quote:

s there something in China or Mexico in which they are the sole supplier of that good to America?


Yes.

Very cheap labor.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3486 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Price increases are good for Americans?


Wait until you hear what DEflation does to the economy
Posted by MrGumshoes
I see you
Member since Dec 2024
935 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:27 pm to
You don't fix the mess that we are in without some pain. Grow up and be a man/woman!
Posted by PharmacistReb
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2009
5537 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:43 pm to
Southern Republicans celebrating massive tax hikes by a president caked in makeup and product who looks like he’d be more at home in a drag bar than the Oval Office… what a time to be alive.

Proof that the parties always flip. And oh how they have flipped.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43161 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:44 pm to
What? I'll be forced to buy.... AMERICAN?


K.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4968 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:48 pm to
We are essentially promoting capitalism using tariffs. Other countries will get into a bidding war to provide us with the lowest-cost products. Free enterprise on a global scale, baby!!! ‘Merca and such!!!
Posted by Hester5452007
Member since Sep 2018
227 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:56 pm to
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1) It can be done simultaneously. 2) Why wait? 3) If it's something we have to wait on, again, competitors of the tariff'd nations will....COMPETE!


To your 3rd bullet point, these countries are already competing. Tariffs aren’t going to magically make markets more competitive or help countries find efficiencies. They might cut corners but the tariffed countries will have to raise prices, at least some. The non-tariffed countries will raise prices too. Why wouldn’t they? Their competition just had to raise prices. The reduced cost of making things in China is much so less than US. 10% Will not make American production competitive. I’m not saying the tariffs are a bad idea, but prices will go up.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 9:00 pm
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4100 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:57 pm to
I can’t think of one thing I buy from Canada? I like Mexican Food but can make that here in Texas. So not worried about cost.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:58 pm to
We get a lot of lumber from Canada since owls are more important here.
Posted by PharmacistReb
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2009
5537 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:58 pm to
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What? I'll be forced to buy.... AMERICAN?


You’ll be forced to buy the same foreign product at a premium pricing.
Posted by PharmacistReb
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2009
5537 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:59 pm to
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I can’t think of one thing I buy from Canada?


You ever build something with lumber? How about pump gasoline? American refineries rely on a steady import of Canadian heavy crude that we can’t scale overnight.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43161 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:00 pm to
Forced? Actually, I'll buy as I want.
Posted by PharmacistReb
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2009
5537 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:03 pm to
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To your 3rd bullet point, these countries are already competing. Tariffs aren’t going to magically make markets more competitive or help countries find efficiencies. They might cut corners but the tariffed countries will have to raise prices, at least some. The non-tariffed countries will raise prices too. Why wouldn’t they? Their competition just had to raise prices. The reduced cost of making things in China is much so less than US. 10% Will not make American production competitive. I’m not saying the tariffs are a bad idea, but prices will go up.


Rare sane post on this board.

You don’t have to be a Democrat or anti-Trump to understand American manufacturing and some elements of energy production don’t currently exist that would allow us to avoid buying from our three largest trading partners. These tariffs will just make things more expensive.

Tariffs are a 19th century idea that protected American manufacturing back when American manufacturing actually existed. They also funded the U.S. treasury pre-income taxes. Tariffs in 2025 are the worst policy proposal imaginable and benefit neither side. It’s a lose-lose proposition that only harms the Middle Class consumer.
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