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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:23 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:23 pm to MrLSU
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I agree with you that they will not take all of Africa.
They're already closer to that than most people realize, though. They won't "take" Africa because they have no need to, particularly when you consider that they can buy their way into anything in Africa that they may want or need.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:27 pm
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:25 pm to MrLSU
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Which one(s) of those do you believe will take place before 2024? I agree with you that they will not take all of Africa.
Well they pretty much own Africa already, and those docks have been built, they just need to build the carriers that will dock there, and then they’ll just have a toll tax for you to go to the Suez Canal effectively taking it over if not in name. The Suez Canal I’m less confident about since they have some more work to do on that end, but the rest I’m sure of especially since one of those four has for all intents and purposes been achieved.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:26 pm to Gravitiger
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My issue is with all the melodramatic "worst thing in US history" and "China will take over the world in 3 years" bullshite.
There's no need for that, really. History will judge these times for what they are and how they were. There's no need to be overly dramatic when the real world drama is bad enough.
Thanks, btw, for not dragging this thread down tonight.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:27 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Josh Caplan
@joshdcaplan
AXIOS: U.S. officials concerned weapons left in Afghanistan could be seized by ISIS or handed over to China or Russia
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Bruno Maçães
@MacaesBruno
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Summary: the US is worried equipment could fall in Chinese or Russian hands but cannot destroy it because it is fully dependent on Taliban for evacuation
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In most democracies the government could not survive this
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:27 pm to MrLSU
quote:I don't believe any will. But all I would need to win the bet (that OMLandshark would never agree to because it was a stupid thing to say in the first place) is one.
Which one(s) of those do you believe will take place before 2024? I agree with you that they will not take all of Africa.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:28 pm to Gravitiger
Hey Gravitiger, shut the frick up.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:28 pm to Gravitiger
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I believe that, at the very least, we will respond by then to prevent at least one of those things.
First off Bush, Obama, and Trump let China go hog wild over Africa, so for all practical purposes that one has long been achieved. And are you looking at this administration? Do you think any of these clowns could stand up to Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin when we’re being railed by a bunch of goat farmers?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:I'm not sure if you're being sincere or not. I've made this point that blame is irrelevant right now multiple times and been ridiculed for it.
There's no need for that, really. History will judge these times for what they are and how they were. There's no need to be overly dramatic when the real world drama is bad enough.
Thanks, btw, for not dragging this thread down tonight.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:29 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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AXIOS: U.S. officials concerned weapons left in Afghanistan could be seized by ISIS or handed over to China or Russia
I heard a guy on talk radio, a senator I believe, earlier who mentioned that china would be very interested in alot of the tech we left behind. The Taliban will 100% cash in on that interest.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:29 pm to MrLSU
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I agree with you that they will not take all of Africa.
They’ve already bought it. I mean, out of my 4 I listed, that one is complete. Y’all are just way behind and don’t know the enemy we’re facing.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:31 pm to Gravitiger
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I'm not sure if you're being sincere or not. I've made this point multiple times and been ridiculed for it.
I am sincere. There's a way to make that point, or any point, without it devolving into a bitchfest back and forth. I agree with you, to an extent, that it isn't the worst thing ever in the history of ever, but I won't stop saying how shitty this makes us look to the rest of the world, particularly during a time that our country just doesn't need that.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:31 pm to OMLandshark
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Contest to Kill 100 People Using a Sword, I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to recreate that massacre just for old times sake.
Don’t most people now think that was something the media orchestrated and wasn’t real? I could be wrong though, but someone definitely listens to hardcore history too haha
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:31 pm to OMLandshark
quote:We all know about Belt and Road. Do you really think that they have already "taken over Africa"? If so, the Suez prediction is also complete, right?
They’ve already bought it. I mean, out of my 4 I listed, that one is complete. Y’all are just way behind and don’t know the enemy we’re facing.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:32 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Is this al Qaeda? Just wondering how we know they are al Qaeda, although I do remember “foreign fighters” being used to describe them before.
Dr Mike Martin Sailboat
@ThreshedThought
Hearing several reports that a large number (over a thousand) mostly Helmandi and some Kandahari Talibs are moving up to Kabul to assume the internal security of Kabul.
Firstly, that the central Talibs trust most the southerners.
Which will inevitably cause frictions with the Talibs who rocked up in Kabul who were from places like Logar.
This also has creates huge issues for the US and UK evacuations.
The US and the UK did most of their fighting in the south. Particularly places like Helmand. Particularly places that have a strong culture of badal (revenge).
No matter what the central Talibs want - there will be Helmandis in that group that will have lost close relatives due to the actions of US and particularly UK forces.
They would be honour bound to extract revenge. I’m not taking full scale attack here, I am taking pot shots at the gate whilst US/UK doing crowd control.
Here we find out how strong the control of the Talibs fighting factions are by the central leadership. Strong enough to overcome the requirements for badal?
This maybe about to become the most anxious time for the evacuation.
The angrez in particular are totally loathed by the Helmandi tribes whom they’ve fought in three wars since the 1840s (Brits unaware of this when they blundered into Helmand in 2006).
The battle of Maiwand for instance - always held up as an Afghan national victory - was largely due to the presence of the Alizai, Barakzai and Noorzai militias.
Every Helmandi knows the names of the leaders of that fight - Ahktur Khan in the 1840s and Abu Bakr in the 1880s.
The names bring a smile to their faces when you mention them. They are proud of their resistance to the Angrez.
I guess another thought is about what this means for Kabul - Helmand is about as far away as it is possible to get from Kabul on the conservative-cosmopolitan scale.
This is bad news for Kabul, especially its women (whom Helmandis, in the main, treat like shite).
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:32 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I heard a guy on talk radio, a senator I believe, earlier who mentioned that china would be very interested in alot of the tech we left behind.
I would think that this is just gaslighting. No?
At this point, I think Russia/China has intel on all of our weapons except for shite that is hidden and/or currently being planned.
I mean Russia has stolen so much shite. Plans to the Nuclear Bomb. Plans to the Space Shuttle, etc. They never "had" any of those things.
I'm pretty sure they've seen M240 Bravos, M4s, Drones, Humvees, MRAPs, Night Vision Goggles, and our biometric software.
Am I wrong to think this?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:32 pm to OMLandshark
And if they do? How is that the United State’s business? Again what are you proposing? Yes the Taliban is full of Iron Age savages. Now tell me why the US should stay there for one more second and why
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:32 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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In most democracies the government could not survive this
Parliamentary systems would have had a no confidence vote scheduled for Monday afternoon.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:33 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Don’t most people now think that was something the media orchestrated and wasn’t real? I could be wrong though, but someone definitely listens to hardcore history too haha
It’s possible, but the two guys accused of it were executed at the end of the war. I’d 60/40 that it happened. The sickest part of that story is they lost count the first time they tried it, so they did it again and doubled the number.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:33 pm to sabes que
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This is an age where everything is public and on social media. Are there thousands of Americans there “trapped “ that can’t get out?
According to the state Dept, yes.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:34 pm to OMLandshark
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If some of the members of the Taliban know about the Contest to Kill 100 People Using a Sword, I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to recreate that massacre just for old times sake.
Jesus Christ, would you just shut up
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