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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:10 pm to
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The Taliban just had their first press conference and they issued a strong edict:

1. No one will be allowed to use narcotics anymore.
2. The smuggling of drugs is now prohibited.
3. Afghanistan will be a narcotics free country.
4. The Country will focus on cultivating alternative crops.


Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69794 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:11 pm to
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Afghanistan will turn into North Korea and will be impossible to get info out. It will be an intelligence black hole.


You may be right on that going forward. But, I thought this was fascinating.

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In light of all this, it is simply inconceivable that Biden’s false statements last month about the readiness of the Afghan military and police force were anything but intentional. That is particularly true given how heavily the U.S. had Afghanistan under every conceivable kind of electronic surveillance for more than a decade. A significant portion of the archive provided to me by Edward Snowden detailed the extensive surveillance the NSA had imposed on all of Afghanistan. In accordance with the guidelines he required, we never published most of those documents about U.S. surveillance in Afghanistan on the ground that it could endanger people without adding to the public interest, but some of the reporting gave a glimpse into just how comprehensively monitored the country was by U.S. security services.

In 2014, I reported along with Laura Poitras and another journalist that the NSA had developed the capacity, under the codenamed SOMALGET, that empowered them to be “secretly intercepting, recording, and archiving the audio of virtually every cell phone conversation” in at least five countries. At any time, they could listen to the stored conversations of any calls conducted by cell phone throughout the entire country. Though we published the names of four countries in which the program had been implemented, we withheld, after extensive internal debate at The Intercept, the identity of the fifth — Afghanistan — because the NSA had convinced some editors that publishing it would enable the Taliban to know where the program was located and it could endanger the lives of the military and private-sector employees working on it (in general, at Snowden’s request, we withheld publication of documents about NSA activities in active war zones unless they revealed illegality or other deceit). But WikiLeaks subsequently revealed, accurately, that the one country whose identity we withheld where this program was implemented was Afghanistan.

There was virtually nothing that could happen in Afghanistan without the U.S. intelligence community’s knowledge. There is simply no way that they got everything so completely wrong while innocently and sincerely trying to tell Americans the truth about what was happening there.

In sum, U.S. political and military leaders have been lying to the American public for two decades about the prospects for success in Afghanistan generally, and the strength and capacity of the Afghan security forces in particular — up through five weeks ago when Biden angrily dismissed the notion that U.S. withdrawal would result in a quick and complete Taliban takeover. Numerous documents, largely ignored by the public, proved that U.S. officials knew what they were saying was false — just as happened so many times in prior wars — and even deliberately doctored information to enable their lies.

Greenwald: the U.S. govt lied for two decades about Afghanistan.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:11 pm to
I think that is what the Taliban meant when they said life would go back to normal.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13877 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

No one will be allowed to use narcotics anymore.
2. The smuggling of drugs is now prohibited.
3. Afghanistan will be a narcotics free country.
4. The Country will focus on cultivating alternative crops


Damn....what did those people have going for them other than opium???
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104382 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

1. No one will be allowed to use narcotics anymore.
2. The smuggling of drugs is now prohibited.
3. Afghanistan will be a narcotics free country.
4. The Country will focus on cultivating alternative crops.


Looks like all those visits from the D.A.R.E. officers paid off.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32251 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:13 pm to
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fricking ouch....

@RupertStone83
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Al Jazeera anchor notes that, unlike Biden yesterday, Mujahid took questions after his speech.

The Tollybahn has been visible and prepared for dialog while the POTUS remains out of sight at Camp David.

It took our Prez 3 days to come forward with a 10 minute presser and was worthless. Then he chose to return to CD rather than remain at his office in the WH working round the clock to get our people out of that hell hole.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:15 pm to
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Because they want America and it’s military out of the country as quickly as possible. Keeping hostages forces us to stay and act in some capacity.


Practically that is the case, but what happens if some idiot teenager who just joined the Taliban does something violent and idiotic with American citizens? I think that’s a strong possibility.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:18 pm to
Need to close all US bases abroad and bring all troops home.

Then, audit the funds that were spent on this war and find out where the hell they went.

I can guarantee most never left the beltway.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:18 pm to
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I don't know if it has been posted, but here is what the Pentagon Press Sec. had to say in regards to numbers:


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The number of Americans trapped in Afghanistan is actually unknown. According to Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby somewhere around 5,000 to 10,000 are known but the number could be 20,000. Those U.S. citizens are not at the airport in Kabul and need to reach the airport in order to be evacuated.


How ridiculous. We don't even know how many people we SHOULD help. I guess once we hit 10K. Mission accomplished!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75826 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:18 pm to
Interesting note:

Saleh has declared himself President of Afghanistan, pending "a new election". This following reports and video of him in the North rallying support and troops. I guess this is another piece that sets the stage for all out civil war.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7980 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

The Taliban just had their first press conference and they issued a strong edict:
1. No one will be allowed to use narcotics anymore.
2. The smuggling of drugs is now prohibited.
3. Afghanistan will be a narcotics free country.
4. The Country will focus on cultivating alternative crops.

Theyre about to be a country of rare earth minerals courtesy of China
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:19 pm to
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In light of all this, it is simply inconceivable that Biden’s false statements last month about the readiness of the Afghan military and police force were anything but intentional.


I'm slowly reaching the same conclusion, whether Biden knew it or not. Why else would he say something so dumb?

The real question would be who fed him that and to what end?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75826 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:21 pm to
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The real question would be who fed him that and to what end?

If you want to get in the deep waters of conspiracy, look to those members of the Administration who have close ties to china.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

1. No one will be allowed to use narcotics anymore.
2. The smuggling of drugs is now prohibited.
3. Afghanistan will be a narcotics free country.


..well, I for one won't be going to Afghanistan anytime soon.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:23 pm to
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If you want to get in the deep waters of conspiracy, look to those members of the Administration who have close ties to china.


Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25968 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:24 pm to
The world is laughing at us right now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

1. No one will be allowed to use narcotics anymore.
2. The smuggling of drugs is now prohibited.
3. Afghanistan will be a narcotics free country.


(crosses off list)
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40403 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:25 pm to
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..well, I for one won't be going to Afghanistan anytime soon.



Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12138 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:27 pm to
Germany had a fairly substantial Bundeswehr presence there and just their employees could fill those planes if all the Bundeswehr personnel have left. Anyone who wasn't on the payrole but associated with them may be SOL.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:32 pm to
Twitter memes are fricking weird.

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