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re: Taiwan is its own country
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:22 pm to PeteRose
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:22 pm to PeteRose
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Taiwan is the more successful little brother of China. That’s why bringing up Taiwan makes China mad.
No, it’s because the average Chinese person is jealous (rightly) on how their cousins off the coast lived in free from tyranny. The CCP hates them because they don’t own them.
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:23 pm to CleverUserName
You lead the way.
BTW for years I have advocated allowing the Japanese to re-arm and the US leaving the region. Let those countries in the region settle their own issues.
BTW for years I have advocated allowing the Japanese to re-arm and the US leaving the region. Let those countries in the region settle their own issues.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:23 pm to Eurocat
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In reality both sides have until now chosen just to act like the other is not there.
Ummm, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
The U.N. Charter recognizes the right of self determination of peoples.
The U.S. is a U.N. member.
If the U.N. does not live up to it's charter, then it's a bullshite organization and should be disbanded.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:23 pm to CleverUserName
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Replace “Taiwan” with “Japan”. You can answer your own question.
You can't just do that. That is like pretending that "Ukraine" is "France". Do we now have to go to war in Donbas because we are treaty bound to defend France?
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What if they moved on Japan? We, and the international community, just sit back and let it happen? South Korea?
Then we would uphold our treaty obligations to defend Japan and South Korea.... we have no such treaty obligation with Taiwan.
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You saying we cannot apply any pressure on China at all? We just let them roll through Asia and do what they want? For more cheap shite?
That isn't what I'm saying--can't speak for IB. But generally, we are not the world police force. We are only obligated to defend or protect the countries we have treaty obligations with. Nothing else is our business.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:24 pm to I B Freeman
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I think lobotomy should take up his .410 and hit the beaches of Taiwan and give his life to protect them.
It is best for us to ignore that situation.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:24 pm to I B Freeman
quote:Beautiful.
It is best for us to ignore that situation.
As the Aussies say, "there are two islands China has its eyes on. One has a population of 23 million, the other 26 million. If the US ignores one, it will ignore both." The reference is to Taiwan and Australia.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:25 pm to I B Freeman
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BTW for years I have advocated disarming Korea, Japan and Australia and letting the CCP take them over after encouraging the US to leave the region.
FIFY
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:25 pm to OMLandshark
I bet Wuhan Lebron disagrees.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:25 pm to TrueTiger
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If the U.N. does not live up to it's charter, then it's a bullshite organization and should be disbanded.
The UN went one step further and expelled Taiwan in the 70's.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:26 pm to I B Freeman
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Do you want to go to war over Taiwan???
Taiwan is Poland of this century and sorry if you want to allow a genocide, but I’m not going to. Go frick your mother.
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The Brits didn't over Hong Kong.
You’re right, the Brits did frick up. They should have handed the territory over to Taiwan.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:26 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I guess we have given up on Hong Kong.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:31 pm to I B Freeman
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You lead the way. BTW for years I have advocated allowing the Japanese to re-arm and the US leaving the region. Let those countries in the region settle their own issues.
So let them move on Japan and South Korea too.
You study one iota of history? The lead ups to both world wars? Remember us just letting Europe settle their differences and where that got us? Turning the blind eye to Germany and whistling past the graveyard while they committed their atrocities?
We let them just walk in to Taiwan and imprison and execute members of that government? Innocent members of the public?
That’s your thinking…. More of what has really fricked the world up in the past.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:31 pm to OMLandshark
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You’re right, the Brits did frick up. They should have handed the territory over to Taiwan.
Taiwan, like Britain, had no chance of holding the territory.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:32 pm to LSU2a
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I guess we have given up on Hong Kong.
Hong Kong has never even for a minute been our problem. Britain gave everyone born in the territory pre-1997 handover and their descendants a path to BNO status/residency in the UK. That is all there is to do.
Hong Kong belongs to China and there is nothing anyone in the Western Hemisphere can do about it.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Lots of big talk in this thread but no plans of action.
We didn't even send troops to get involved their civil war but you boys want to fight the Chinese if they fight the Taiwanese.
Are there some more wars you guys want us to get into???
We didn't even send troops to get involved their civil war but you boys want to fight the Chinese if they fight the Taiwanese.
Are there some more wars you guys want us to get into???
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:35 pm to TrueTiger
Only 14 nations in the UN recognize Taiwan. Only 17 in the world.
Look I hope Taiwan stays they way they but I don't want to send Americans to fight a war over it like you guys want to do.
(Oh---do you guys want tariffs on Taiwan chips to "protect" American chip makers???)
Look I hope Taiwan stays they way they but I don't want to send Americans to fight a war over it like you guys want to do.
(Oh---do you guys want tariffs on Taiwan chips to "protect" American chip makers???)
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:36 pm to NC_Tigah
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As the Aussies say, "there are two islands China has its eyes on. One has a population of 23 million, the other 26 million. If the US ignores one, it will ignore both." The reference is to Taiwan and Australia.
Silliness. Outside of the similar populations and the vague correlation of being on an island, Taiwan and Australia are not similarly situated vis a vis China
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:46 pm to I B Freeman
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I don't want to send Americans to fight a war over it like you guys want to do.
We can at least take away their 'most favored nation' status.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:49 pm to I B Freeman
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Are there some more wars you guys want us to get into???
You tell us, Pooh Bear.
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