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Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:27 pm to lsu777
quote:That trend reversed several years ago but people with six-figures of student debt need to cling to something I suppose.
very doubtful considering that median earnings over a life time for those that have a college degree is a million more than those without
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:27 pm to Purple Spoon
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Everything is a choice. I have a degree. I am appreciative for my career path but it wasn't easy, took a hefty toll on my family when I was starting out (stress, time commitments, travel, relocation) and has left me out in the wind on more than one occasion.
Make no mistake, formal training and licensures are a MUST. Grunt work is not sustainable for very long. There is a huge difference between a Licensed electrician and a guy who does electrical work. A Licensed Plumber and a guy who unclogs toilets.
not really. no offense but there really isnt. still on the job.
hell most business owners are still on the job pulling wire and doing the things you mentioned. i would say 90% plus are
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:27 pm to udtiger
Very true
But the ones who protest themselves as “college preparatory” and touting how much money a class gets in scholarships and things really does semi dilute the message they have gone all in to advertise as
But the ones who protest themselves as “college preparatory” and touting how much money a class gets in scholarships and things really does semi dilute the message they have gone all in to advertise as
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:28 pm to lsu777
quote:You sure are defensive about this topic. How much do you owe?
"how many jobs do you think there are like that? "
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:32 pm to 94LSU
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That trend reversed several years ago but people with six-figures of student debt need to cling to something I suppose.
it might be trending down but lets say its half a million and you get to work inside vs outside in the heat and cold
and yea i have six figures worth of debt
:rotflmao: its ok to be clueless but you dont have to tell everyone
yall act like we live in the NE and everyone is goign to small private schools for liberal arts or some shite like that. its roughly 80% of people in louisiana with a bachelors went to school in state.
yall also complain about louisiana being uneducated etc(ranks 49th in % of adults with at least an associates) yet come on here preaching for young males to skip college
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:34 pm to 94LSU
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You sure are defensive about this topic. How much do you owe?
i am an engineer who worked in the trades to pay for college
now stfu and quit playing on your phone and go build them scaffolds.
ftr im not defensive...i have done both. im a certified pipe fitter. worked my way through college after fricking it up the first time. I actually know the difference...i can promise...nobody wants to be turning pipe or working in an attic in aug in louisiana
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:35 pm to Zach
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When my son was in HS he found out that the Home Ec class was 90% girls. He signed up immediately.
He learned from me. That’s exactly why I took the class.
I already knew how to change a tire and work with basic tools.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:35 pm to Warboo
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AI will replace almost all of white collar jobs and some blue collar jobs whether you or I like it or not. It is already happening.
no it wont
wont replace most blue collar either.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:38 pm to udtiger
Ideally - start a trade in HS. After completing HS, take entry level or entry level + 1 in that trade while you were on some form of Industrial Tech degree. Site safety or something.
Experience in the trade + college degree is rare, and would effectively guarantee an individual some sort of low six figure gig right out of college. Especially if you’re working around the plants.
OR do a general business degree so you have atleast one or two clues on how to operate your own business.
Experience in the trade + college degree is rare, and would effectively guarantee an individual some sort of low six figure gig right out of college. Especially if you’re working around the plants.
OR do a general business degree so you have atleast one or two clues on how to operate your own business.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:40 pm to lsu777
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AI will replace almost all of white collar jobs and some blue collar jobs whether you or I like it or not. It is already happening.
no it wont
wont replace most blue collar either.
It is already happening. Have you been in modern assembly line factories? Everyday there are new AI/Robotics taking the place of blue collar workers. All of these Data analysis white collar positions are about to go "Poof". That is just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:43 pm to Warboo
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It is already happening. Have you been in modern assembly line factories? Everyday there are new AI/Robotics taking the place of blue collar workers. All of these Data analysis white collar positions are about to go "Poof". That is just the tip of the iceberg.
most blue collar work isnt an assembly line factory
just like most white collar jobs are not data analysis either
i said there will be some but AI...
isnt going out to a job site and pulling wire
its not going out to a pump, listening to it, take vibration readings and diagnosing what is wrong
it is not going to go out and access a structure and say what is wrong
AI cant....walk out and look at things
it cant fully replace doctors, lawyers, engineers, architechs, etc
it will make their jobs easier but it isnt replacing them. it cant physically do work
essentially it will make things much more efficient...same way computers have. the average worker produces 40-60% more per man hour than the the average worker in the 50-60s.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:50 pm to Warboo
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TRUE. Blue collar jobs will not see quite the impact from AI compared to white collar jobs (which will be decimated).
The reason ai isn’t taking blue collar jobs is because the people that are building ai are pussies who can’t turn a wrench or run a bead
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:57 pm to LegendInMyMind
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We've also allowed ourselves — as a whole — to fall into the thinking that tech/vocational schools are somehow beneath us or our children, and not for the "smart" kids.
Look at this thread, there's people worrying about being seen in the wrong caste like they're some kind of Indian chucklefrick.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:05 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
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Look at this thread, there's people worrying about being seen in the wrong caste like they're some kind of Indian chucklefrick.
quote:
not for the "smart" kids.
1) it shouldnt be for the smart kids because you are damning them to a lifetime of back breaking labor until they decide to go into a different part of the field or a different field all together
2) you are around terrible people all day, especially if not industrial. poor arse people with poor outlooks on things
3) its not that you will be wrong caste...but you will be poor.
but hey i highly highly encourage yall to get your kids into the trades. highly encourage
less competition for my kids
thing is...you dont see successful people encouraging their kids to go into the trades. The wealthy and very upper middle are not sending their kids into the trades thats for sure. People knocking down 250-500k certainly are not. its all the middle class guys who hate their job, stuck making 80-100k that suddenly think its a good idea
do what yall want though.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:09 pm to lsu777
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lsu777
This dude crashing out in a "go into a trades job" thread.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:22 pm to Errerrerrwere
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This dude crashing out in a "go into a trades job" thread
yea making an argument why its wrong is crashing out
i guess giving hard numbers and facts over posting feelings and 1 offs now equals crashing out?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:24 pm to lsu777
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i guess giving hard numbers and facts over posting feelings and 1 offs now equals crashing out?
You are literally crashing out, dude. I'm sorry you are going to lose your job due to AI soon. Crash out then. Love your life fully now. It's going to be okay.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:34 pm to udtiger
False. It isnt their place to push students one way or the other. I'd rather see trade options available for student to experience so they, and their parents,can discuss
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:41 pm to Errerrerrwere
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You are literally crashing out, dude. I'm sorry you are going to lose your job due to AI soon. Crash out then. Love your life fully now. It's going to be okay.
nice cope after being shown to be a dumbass
have a good christmas man
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