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re: Susan Collin: Bolton's claim have prompted a number of conversations among my colleagues

Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:04 am to
It is about getting more than 50 to vote for removal. Democrats will be able to say a majority found Trump guilty.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44713 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:08 am to
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The best people!



For all the downvotes this post got, the statement is true. Many of us questioned the hiring of Bolton in the first place. He, along with several others, have proved to be disastrous hires.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:09 am to
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It is about getting more than 50 to vote for removal. Democrats will be able to say a majority found Trump guilty.


I don't think they are getting this. Too many seats up for grabs.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:09 am to
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If the Republicans in the Senate manage to frick this up and get GEOTUS removed, Washington DC will burn


FIFY
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
15170 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:11 am to
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For all the downvotes this post got, the statement is true. Many of us questioned the hiring of Bolton in the first place. He, along with several others, have proved to be disastrous hires.


The NPC response to sleights against GEOTUS is to downvote. They can't help programming.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
8187 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:12 am to
have you noticed that if you disagree with them your a traitor, agree your a patriot and at least every day one of them is talking about a civil war.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:14 am to
How on earth are you still posting?

You literally stated on this boards months ago you’re here to just troll and flame Trump supporters.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
170466 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:15 am to
The author of that article swallowed and then got brown on his nose.
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The idea that John Bolton, a lifelong conservative and loyal Republican, is some sort of "deep state" James Comey clone out to sell books by making up stories to damage President Trump is patently absurd

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As with any author, I'm sure Bolton wants to sell as many books as possible. However, he also could have sold a ton of books had he offered a full-throated defense of Trump. That is, had he written a book that said that Trump never told him about tying aid to Ukraine to the investigations and that this is just another example of a witch hunt — he would have been on Fox News and talk radio constantly and would have had a best seller on his hands. Further, he would have revived his career as a conservative hero and all the money-making opportunities that go along with it.

Assuming the New York Times account is accurate, by writing this book, Bolton is burning bridges with most conservatives knowing the establishment will never accept him.

There are nowhere near 20 Republican votes to oust Trump from office even with Bolton's account. Trump and his defenders have other arguments at their disposal. But the effort to turn Bolton into some sort of Comey-esque tool of the deep state and establishment is completely ridiculous.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103630 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:16 am to
Trump will be removed. This was decided before it began.

It’s all part of the show. GOP were to act united ready to dismiss the impeachment to satisfy the base, and right before they do it “new info comes out that they cannot ignore” so they’ll vote for witnesses. But they’ll make sure its mostly witnesses that are bad for Trump. Then they’ll say “the evidence is overwhelming we cannot in good faith vote to acquit Trump” then the weak Rs vote to remove him along with some others not up for re-election.

It’s over. I fear we have lost
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:17 am to
Between you, VCUTiger, and Sir Winston I cant decide who is the most emotional poster when it comes to anything with Trump.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42334 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:17 am to
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Watch closely for signs that the Republican Party is working with the Dems for the purpose of getting rid of POTUS Trump now and for the future


GOP would love to get rid of Trump.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20730 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:20 am to
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Between you, VCUTiger, and Sir Winston I cant decide who is the most emotional poster when it comes to anything with Trump.





He's the most doomsday motherf*cker I've encountered on here.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103630 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:26 am to
I don’t trust the GOP anymore than the Dems. I guarantee a lot of them are involved in the Ukraine mess, and they’ll vote to remove Trump to save their arse even if it means losing reelection
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28698 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:28 am to
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For all the downvotes this post got, the statement is true. Many of us questioned the hiring of Bolton in the first place. He, along with several others, have proved to be disastrous hires.


Priebus is up there as well.

And let's be honest here: no Washington outsider is going to waltz into the presidency and bring in a team of 100% outsiders. When a newbie is elected to Congress they bring some of their group but DC is so effed you've got to have a couple of holdover staffers that know the lay of the land to even find your office. You HAVE to hire a certain amount of insiders.

None of that is meant as an excuse for Trump; I think he was grossly naive to think the GOP would just fall in behind him. Most of them fell in behind him just so they could stab him in the back. I'm not sure what the "best under the circumstances" cabinet would have looked like, but he fell well short of it.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:30 am to
If they do then the GOP party will cease to exist.

His approval ratings have steadily gone up last year to this year even during this whole impeachment sham.

He has a 40% core base which would never forgive or vote GOP again, they’ll sit out any election. Mitch isn’t even retarded enough to go along because he and a bunch of other 50/50 GOPers would be out of power.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:33 am to
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Trump will be removed. This was decided before it began.

It’s all part of the show. GOP were to act united ready to dismiss the impeachment to satisfy the base, and right before they do it “new info comes out that they cannot ignore” so they’ll vote for witnesses. But they’ll make sure its mostly witnesses that are bad for Trump. Then they’ll say “the evidence is overwhelming we cannot in good faith vote to acquit Trump” then the weak Rs vote to remove him along with some others not up for re-election.

It’s over. I fear we have lost



Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28698 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:37 am to
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Mitch isn’t even retarded enough to go along because he and a bunch of other 50/50 GOPers would be out of power.



That's the only thing saving Trump right now. And while they all want to hold the gavel and hand out plum committee assignments, let's be real. If the choices were:

1. Trump stays in office, McConnell holds the senate but so much corruption is exposed the gravy train is severely impacted.

2. Trump is booted, McConnell loses the senate but the gravy train continues unimpeded.

What do you think he'd choose? I don't know what the odds are of #1 (the gravy train part), probably well under 50%, but if it was likely I wouldn't trust Mitch for a second.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:43 am to
Jesus fricking Christ come up with something original
Posted by SHBlake79
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2008
1761 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:44 am to
We already have the “girl power” team of Collins and Murk where they wanna get you on their knees to beg for their vote when it was a 51-49 majority. Then Flake came along in their club and he is replaced by Romney. Now they only need one more weak arse republican like Martha McSally to bring into the club and then there you go. Majority Democrat again when you include these traitor McCain like Republicans! We need a much strong senate to come out of this years election period.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
15170 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:03 pm to
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Jesus fricking Christ come up with something original


I can tell you're triggered, but please don't use the Lord's name in vain.
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