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re: Supreme Court Decision Thread - Wednesday, June 29

Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:46 am to
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:46 am to
Is that hint? Hopefully it’s a good hint!
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Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:47 am to
I hope today is another bad day for the left and a good day for the good guys!
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6155 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:48 am to
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anc


I have a question ole great teacher. If this goes for the good guys, I saw someone a few days ago mention ‘Womack’. Not being much of a student, I googled it and read up briefly about how it affects commerce. How likely is that to be revisited under this SCOTUS, in a scale of 1-10, 10 being very likely?

Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:48 am to
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It won't be automatic, like a switch ending them, but this would be case law that would allow them to be challenged.



Depending on how the case is written and how far it goes (or doesn't go), it could also make it A LOT easier to get an injunction and put the burden on the alphabet soup agency to prove that it has the authority to do what it is attempting to do.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141078 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:48 am to
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RT3, Wednesday, you two are extremely intelligent. I have especially enjoyed reading your thoughts in these threads over the past few weeks.

I appreciate the kind words anc... I assure you I'm not the smartest person in any room, even when I'm alone

I just know how to read words and give my understanding of those words and how they're put together

also... currently don't see Uncivil Law have a live stream set up for today's releases yet... we need him to do his speed reading of the opinions
Posted by Mellow Drama
Flyover Country
Member since Aug 2020
3986 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:49 am to
In

Come on SCOTUS, geld the administrative state!

ETA: thx anc
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:50 am
Posted by tharre4
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
571 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:49 am to
are there any live reactions/interpretations like Uncivil Law, today? i know SCOTUSBlog but I prefer the audio instead of reading myslef
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18019 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:50 am to
There is nothing this term that would suggest they would revisit Womack. We will see what the Court takes up in the October 2022 term. Womack is another terrible decision- I think from 1975.

Anyway, The Warren and Burger courts were awful and a lot of their decisions (See: Roe v. Wade) were made up out of thin air.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:51 am to
quote:

I assure you I'm not the smartest person in any room, even when I'm alone

I just know how to read words and give my understanding of those words and how they're put together



That alone makes you MUCH SMARTER than the Wise Latina.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7574 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Will this result in the loss of what some might call good regulations in the area of consumer protection or investment matters?

I was thinking the same thing.
What I believe will happen should the ruling go in favor of WV is that a legislative committee of house reps will have to review every code that a regulatory agency has issued from it inception, strike any regulation that effects the economic freedom of any entity or state, but balance the culling with the regulations that provide a benefit to every individual in the country, keeping in mind any ramifications to interstate commerce.
Then Congress votes to establish the "base-line" of beneficial regulations and votes on all future regulatory changes.
That will be tricky and will not happen overnight, but it is the way...if you can keep the lobbyists out of the process.

This process should reduce the need for the progressive, un-fire-able "rule writers and enforcers" stacked for decades into these abc agencies.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:57 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141078 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:52 am to
quote:

quote:

I assure you I'm not the smartest person in any room, even when I'm alone

I just know how to read words and give my understanding of those words and how they're put together

That alone makes you MUCH SMARTER than the Wise Latina.



that may or may not be facts
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141078 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:53 am to
quote:

are there any live reactions/interpretations like Uncivil Law, today? i know SCOTUSBlog but I prefer the audio instead of reading myslef

I'm still waiting for Uncivil to post a link and go live
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19011 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:57 am to
Kinda of crazy to think but if the SC neuters these agencies that would be a massive step forward in the quest to drain the swamp. That would be another massive win for Trump. At that point I’d think he’d have a legit argument for tGoat President
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98613 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:58 am to
talk to me Goose...
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:58 am to
I think one thing you can look at right away on the West Virginia case is who writes the opinion.

If it's Roberts, it's probably going to go against the EPA but will be very narrow in scope.

If it's Alito or Thomas, you can pretty much kiss your job goodbye if you work for one of these politicized alphabet soup agencies.

If it's Kavanaugh or ACB, it's probably something in between.

Of course, we know exactly what it is if one of the DNC goosestepping libs write the opinion.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18019 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:58 am to
Almost time for the F5.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1912 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:58 am to
In sitting here trying to come up with what would be a possible compromise decision on WV vs EPA and am struggling how the court could put forth a narrow decision on this that doesn't majorly hamper the administrative state.

Unless they come up with a way to tier the level of decision that the legislative branch can abdicate their need to rule on, I am at a loos how it would work.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5777 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:58 am to
Question:

If the court sides with WV, what becomes of the delegation doctrine? If Congress cannot delegate their authority to the EPA, can they delegate it to the Executive?
If not, then all EOs are in play for challenge too, no?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141078 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:59 am to
SCOTUSBlog post... which makes sense... give the retiring guy the final opinion of the session

quote:

Prediction.....they save the last opinion for tomorrow which Breyer will author...it will be Torres....
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49090 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:00 am to
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