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Supreme Court Decision Thread - Wednesday, June 29
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:00 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:00 am
Get in here, SCOTUS geeks! We're going to discuss and go live with the Supreme Court at 9 a.m. CT. Know what's going on before someone comes and posts breaking news this afternoon!
We are down to the FINAL FOUR cases of the term. Today is the only decision day on the schedule, but they could add tomorrow. No matter what, we will get all four decisions by tomorrow. Decisions will be posted on the official link below at 9 a.m. If there is no R- number, another decision will be posted at 9:10, and every 10 minutes until there is an R-number. Remember, decisions are released in order of reverse seniority except for the Chief Justice. Tea leaves say that Roberts is writing the West Virginia/EPA decision, so it will likely be last.
SCOTUS Blog: LINK
Official Releases: LINK
The big two are kind of related:
West Virginia v. EPA: The court could decide to end climate change madness and severely cripple the deep state by reducing the capacity of the fourth branch of government - the administrative state. Read the synopsis at LINK
Biden vs Texas: Like WV vs. EPA, this is about the administrative state. Does Homeland Security have the right to make law? This is specific to immigration while WV v. EPA is regarding Climate Change - but these two decisions going to the states will neuter the administrative state of power that they have been abusing since the Obama Administration. Read the synopsis at LINK
If today is the last day, its been an honor to be in this thread with the regulars. I know that Dobbs got more people interested, but it really is an amazing process that Americans should be proud of and take interest in.
RT3, Wednesday, you two are extremely intelligent. I have especially enjoyed reading your thoughts in these threads over the past few weeks.
I hope some of you have learned a little about the process along the way. The Supreme Court is an amazing institution!
We are down to the FINAL FOUR cases of the term. Today is the only decision day on the schedule, but they could add tomorrow. No matter what, we will get all four decisions by tomorrow. Decisions will be posted on the official link below at 9 a.m. If there is no R- number, another decision will be posted at 9:10, and every 10 minutes until there is an R-number. Remember, decisions are released in order of reverse seniority except for the Chief Justice. Tea leaves say that Roberts is writing the West Virginia/EPA decision, so it will likely be last.
SCOTUS Blog: LINK
Official Releases: LINK
The big two are kind of related:
West Virginia v. EPA: The court could decide to end climate change madness and severely cripple the deep state by reducing the capacity of the fourth branch of government - the administrative state. Read the synopsis at LINK
Biden vs Texas: Like WV vs. EPA, this is about the administrative state. Does Homeland Security have the right to make law? This is specific to immigration while WV v. EPA is regarding Climate Change - but these two decisions going to the states will neuter the administrative state of power that they have been abusing since the Obama Administration. Read the synopsis at LINK
If today is the last day, its been an honor to be in this thread with the regulars. I know that Dobbs got more people interested, but it really is an amazing process that Americans should be proud of and take interest in.
RT3, Wednesday, you two are extremely intelligent. I have especially enjoyed reading your thoughts in these threads over the past few weeks.
I hope some of you have learned a little about the process along the way. The Supreme Court is an amazing institution!
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:07 am
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:01 am to anc
I've been looking forward to this thread.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:02 am to anc
In because frick the EPA
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:02 am to anc
Constitution stacked
Unelected bureaucrats fricked
Unelected bureaucrats fricked
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:03 am to anc
This could be one of the most historic days in U.S. history in terms of restoring government branches to their proper roles.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:04 am to anc
In
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:05 am to anc
SCOTUS could make effectively make the country a confederation of states again depending on how they rule in cases today if they want, which isn't talked about enough.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:07 am to TrussvilleTide
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SCOTUS could make effectively make the country a confederation of states again depending on how they rule in cases today if they want, which isn't talked about enough.
The South Shall Rise Again!
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:08 am to TrussvilleTide
If the alphabet agency power grab gets nuked the libs will be out of options at that point and will try to stack the court, no more plays left.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:18 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:08 am to anc
Since this is a more active thread I'll repost a question.
Will this effectively jettison tens of thousands of regulations made by govt agencies? Will this result in the loss of what some might call good regulations in the area of consumer protection or investment matters?
If so, I doubt this ruling goes in WV's favor or if it does it will be very narrow. Roberts didn't want to overturn Roe, wouldn't this be a much larger shift in decades of practice for agencies? Would alphabet agency rules fall by the wayside and conceivably lead to a bit of disarray until Congress acts?
Will this effectively jettison tens of thousands of regulations made by govt agencies? Will this result in the loss of what some might call good regulations in the area of consumer protection or investment matters?
If so, I doubt this ruling goes in WV's favor or if it does it will be very narrow. Roberts didn't want to overturn Roe, wouldn't this be a much larger shift in decades of practice for agencies? Would alphabet agency rules fall by the wayside and conceivably lead to a bit of disarray until Congress acts?
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:09 am to anc
... many thanks for your wisdom ...
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:09 am to Herschal
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In because frick the deep state
FIFY.
The EPA is just a symptom of the problem.....
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:10 am to anc
A little more about Biden v Texas ….
Immigration: In Biden v. Texas, the Supreme Court will decide whether it will uphold former President Donald Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy.
Formally known as the Migrant Protection Protocols, the policy sends asylum-seekers who arrive in the United States back to Mexico while their immigration proceedings take place.
This policy went into effect during Trump’s administration and sent about 70,000 people back to Mexico while he was in office.
Since President Joe Biden has entered office, he has tried to end this policy. The Supreme Court will decide if he is able to do so.
Immigration: In Biden v. Texas, the Supreme Court will decide whether it will uphold former President Donald Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy.
Formally known as the Migrant Protection Protocols, the policy sends asylum-seekers who arrive in the United States back to Mexico while their immigration proceedings take place.
This policy went into effect during Trump’s administration and sent about 70,000 people back to Mexico while he was in office.
Since President Joe Biden has entered office, he has tried to end this policy. The Supreme Court will decide if he is able to do so.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:11 am to anc
IN
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:12 am to anc
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f today is the last day, its been an honor to be in this thread with the regulars. I know that Dobbs got more people interested, but it really is an amazing process that Americans should be proud of and take interest in.
RT3, Wednesday, you two are extremely intelligent. I have especially enjoyed reading your thoughts in these threads over the past few weeks.
I hope some of you have learned a little about the process along the way. The Supreme Court is an amazing institution!
Ir's been a great read!
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:12 am to Jake88
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Will this effectively jettison tens of thousands of regulations made by govt agencies?
It won't be automatic, like a switch ending them, but this would be case law that would allow them to be challenged.
quote:
Will this result in the loss of what some might call good regulations in the area of consumer protection or investment matters?
Possibly, if someone with standing challenged. But Congress is free to codify things as well.
quote:
If so, I doubt this ruling goes in WV's favor or if it does it will be very narrow. Roberts didn't want to overturn Roe, wouldn't this be a much larger shift in decades of practice for agencies? Would alphabet agency rules fall by the wayside and conceivably lead to a bit of disarray?
This is a good thought. I don't think Chevron will be overturned, but even if it isn't and the court sides with West Virginia, working for the alphabet agencies would go back to being a boring job, and less about pushing personal agendas.
Congress should pass a law and say Hey, EPA - here's the law we passed. We grant you the power to enforce these laws and regulations. Instead, the EPA is just making shite up and enforcing it as law. This has to stop.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:15 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:13 am to anc
Can’t wait
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:13 am to anc
bye bye EPA.....and a lot more 3 letter agencies!!!!
LETS GO
LETS GO
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:14 am to anc
So if this case goes like we expect, is there a chance we could eventually be able to buy working gas cans again?
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:15 am to Jake88
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If so, I doubt this ruling goes in WV's favor or if it does it will be very narrow. Roberts didn't want to overturn Roe, wouldn't this be a much larger shift in decades of practice for agencies? Would alphabet agency rules fall by the wayside and conceivably lead to a bit of disarray until Congress acts?
They've been strict textualists in every ruling so far this term, and to me not taking the big swing and gutting the alphabet agencies would be off character since its clearly not in the constitution that these agencies should have any power. They didn't consider the social, political, and governmental ramifications of nuking Roe, but this admittedly is a much bigger fish in terms of impact.
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